Savage Stock Problem

cathntr

cathntr

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Alright I have a Savage Model 10 with a synthetic stock and free floating barrel. The problem is the left side of the forearm on the stock is alomost touching the barrel while the right side has about twice as much gap as it should. I am assumming it is this way bc of how flimsy the stock is and Im worried its affecting the accuracy. If it is indeed affecting the accuracy of the gun I would like to get it fixed. Could someone tell me the easiest way to go about doing this. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Josh.
 
I have a sav 11 with a flimsy stock. I was shooting off a bipod one day and it was all over the place. Long story made short, with the bipod you could tweak the stock enough that it would touch the barrel and effect accuracy. Once I figured that out and shot off bags it shoots pretty good groups.
I think your stock is parr for the course.
I don't think there is a fix for that stock.
M
 
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Our two Savage model 10s exhibit the same trait yours does and it does not touch nor is the accuracy compromised.
 
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Thanks for the replies. When im shooting of my shooting bag I can get the gun to group well enough to kill anything I shoot at. Now with that being said, since having the gun I have shot at sevaral coyotes from 75 yards out to about 250 yards and didnt hit any of them. Most of them were either perfect broadside shots or frontal shots. I do use a bi-pod when calling and use it with several other guns as well and they all shoot just the same with it as they do without. Do you think that with the stock being this way and using the bi-pod is affecting the accuracy enought to miss all the coyotes I have shot at?
 
Originally Posted By: cathntrThanks for the replies. When im shooting of my shooting bag I can get the gun to group well enough to kill anything I shoot at. Now with that being said, since having the gun I have shot at sevaral coyotes from 75 yards out to about 250 yards and didnt hit any of them. Most of them were either perfect broadside shots or frontal shots. I do use a bi-pod when calling and use it with several other guns as well and they all shoot just the same with it as they do without.

The way I read this, I assume you haven't shot your Savage at paper in a fairly controlled environment (target setting), with the bipod? If not I strongly suggest that to be your first order of business. If at all possible you should always practice with the exact same setup as you will be hunting with. If that doesn't change anything... idk coyote fever? Also what caliber and what do you have it zero'd at, fps and grain of bullet? Your zero could be in a spot that would make it sweet spotted in one spot but touchy in all others if that makes sense... IE dead on at 300 but way high under 250, dead on at 100 but way low past 150.
 
I have a savage 16fss in 308. what I did was to cut a groove in the bottom of the fore end where all the honeycomb is. I used a router to cut a 3/8" groove and then took an aluminum 12 ga cleaning rod and cut a piece to lay in the groove. I then filled the fore end with re inforced acra glass bedding compound. after that I re-inletted the barrel channel and glass bedded the action. then I filled the buttstock with foam. nice and solid now.
 
The stocks are a pretty easy fix, you can also take 1/4" alumium angle, drill and epoxy to the ribs, sand the ribs and angle first. A lot of savages will group better with 10-20rds through them, just clean when your groups start to fall off.

Take the time to tune your rifle in at 100yds on paper, and most importantly, leave the bipod home. My groups tighten up when i don't use one, even with a accustock.

You should be able to slip a dollar between your stock and action and barrel, that includes the rear section of the action, where the safty is.If you can do that your ok, if you can't simply take some sandpapaer and work it until you can. blue
 
I have 4 Savage rifles but only one has a plastic stock. Even the ones in wood have the same problem. What I did was loosen the action screws, shim the barrel in the channel, the tighten the action screws. Remove the shims and the barrel is centered.
 
Originally Posted By: cathntrThanks for the replies. When im shooting of my shooting bag I can get the gun to group well enough to kill anything I shoot at. Now with that being said, since having the gun I have shot at sevaral coyotes from 75 yards out to about 250 yards and didnt hit any of them. Most of them were either perfect broadside shots or frontal shots. I do use a bi-pod when calling and use it with several other guns as well and they all shoot just the same with it as they do without. Do you think that with the stock being this way and using the bi-pod is affecting the accuracy enought to miss all the coyotes I have shot at?

Personally I have to say YES based on the experience I had with my rifle. At 100 yards w/bipod it was ~4" group on that particular day. I took the bipod off and they shrunk to less than one inch. Just last week I shot it off the portable shooting table and the group was just over an inch.
Combine that with a little coyote fever and I can easily see a miss from 75 to 250 yards.
Try shooting some coyotes with out the bipod, just use sticks stuck just ahead of the magazine and see if you don't have better luck.
Good hunting.
Mark
 
Cathntr, I also have a 16FSS Savage in a .204 with much the same problem as has been presented. The composite stock is extremely flexible and I tend to shoot in the field with the carry sling for support (way I was taught as a kid)...and the stock was miserable..

I contacted Savage and acquired a wood stock from a model 10 and it worked great to stiffen up the whole rifle, but added more weight than I wanted to carry around...

I cut out the channel under the barrel, installed a couple of fiberglass arrow shafts, and epoxied them in...then relieved the barrel channel where it's quite a ways from the barrel... The barrel will still distort if I'm shooting a lot of rapid fire (rarely), but the first few shots are really tightly grouped, and the pressure from my sling doesn't seem to affect the stock now..
 
I should add that plastic stock savages need to be set on the floor on the butt stock with the action screws a 1/2 turn loose, snug the the top one, then snug the bottom one. Tighten the top one and then the bottom, don't overtighten them. That will center the barrel in the stock.

All this info is in the owners manuals on the savage web site. blue
 
Problem solved- I tried to do what bluealtered suggested by putting the butt on the ground and it did not work on my gun so what I did was loosened both screws held the barrell where I thought it should be then tightened the screws back down. Now the barrell is centered and i took it out hunting witht he bi-pod yesterday to make sure it wasnt just going to go right back to where it was. I didnt end up calling anything in but the barrell stayed put so im pleased with the end result. This is something you guys having the same problem might try to do if the other thing dont work out for you. Thanks for your help and suggestions. Josh
 
Here's what I did to my 10ML stock. I had an old aluminum arrow laying around, so that's what I bedded in the forend as stiffener.

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Josh, the reason it's set on the floor is so the barrel lug butts up aginst the front piller to stop rearward travel on recoil, glad you got yours fixed. blue
 


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