Scope advice - Burris 2-7 & 3-9 ballistic plex.

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i think some or most burris products are us but i had heard the ff11's are exported.


I just got a Burris Fullfield II 3-9x40 w/ Ballistic Plex last week from Natchez Shooters Supply. I didn't get the promo one w/ the binos, just the scope. I was always under the assumption that all Burris scopes were made in the USA. I guess I didn't do my homework well enough because when I received the scope, there was a tiny sticker on the underside of the scope that said "Made In The Phillipines"! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Needless to say, I wasn't very pleased with that! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/angry-smiley-055.gif Haven't put it on a gun yet so can't really comment on it much although it doesn't look like too bad of a scope just from looking it over. Plus, I think I will like the ballistic plex reticle. Time will tell though!
 
The 1/2 MOA clicks would rule out the 2-7 for me.
I have a 3-9x40 and it's a fine scope. I'm going to keep it on my .270 because the reticle is designed for rifles with ballistics similar to .270/.308/.30-06.
 
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The sales clerk marketed the scope as American made, but a little research revealed that it was not..




Here's something interesting about Burris scopes! If you've got an '06 Cabela's Shooting/Reloading catalog, go to page 147 which is the Burris scopes page. Up in the top lefthand corner of the page is a gold ribbon that has printed on it "Forever Warranty" & "Burris 100% Made in USA". Then on the same page, the scope furthest to the right is the Fullfield II 3-9x40 which is just like the one I purchased last week and on the bottom of mine was "Made in the Phillipines". Kinda misleading if Cabela's Burris FFII's are manufactured in the same place as mine was! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
 
hello, not trying to beat this thread to death "however" its seems burris is working both sides of the fence on this one....i picked up a 2005 burris catalog last winter thumbing thru it i noticed the u.s.a made logo on several pages not in the fullfield 2 page.it may be a fine scope i just dont appreciate being somewhat mislead..nikon or bushnell make no claim to be american made give them credit for that i suppose ? good luck..
 
Welllll, as fate would have it, I saw an ad in the newspaper for a 2.5-8x36 Leupold, that had never been mounted for $350. I decided to pull the trigger and bought it today! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif I've wanted one of these for a long time but always had a hard time with the thought of dropping $400 on a scope. I had talked myself into getting the two Burris scopes for around $360 but the feedback I've gotten on this thread got me to thinking I might regret that decision. I'm very excited about the scope and even happier about the price, got him down to $340. The scope is mint!

I'm still on the lookout for a coyote rifle, but it'll take me a little longer to come up with a scope for it. I think I can live with that. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-006.gif

Thanks again for all the great advice! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
This thread has me a little confused. Whenever humanly possible I seek out and buy "Made in the USA". Most people know something is wrong in this country and have seen thousands of jobs move overseas, but have no idea about the extent of the problem. Folks, our manufacturing base is severly eroded and getting worse every day. Real wealth in any nation is created from converting natural resources into finished products. All the "service economy" happy horse manure is just that.

Sorry about that, I'll get off the soap box.

The point is I have been buying Burris for that reason along with the fact they make a terrific product for the money! I used to own a couple of the Vari X-II's with the old washer windage and elevation adjustments and they can't hold a candle to the Fullfield line. Furthermore, the Signature models, while pricey like all high end glass, are nothing short of fantastic!

Therefore, I'm going to keep buying Burris, but there are some questions to be answered about which models are foreign manufactured. I have three fullfieds which were all made in USA. Something tells me the Phillipine angle slipped in simultaniously with the free spotting scope promotion.....
 
It is true that SOME Burris fullfield 2 scope are made someplace other than the USA.If It says on the scope that it is "MADE IN USA".Then you know that YOUR scope was indeed made here.But if there is no mention of "MADE IN USA" on your scope anywhere it is safe to say it was made else where.I have seen it with even power scope they make in the fullfield 2 model.I own a few of them and when I buy one I just make sure I have one of the ones that say "MADE IN USA".Sometimes I have to pick through a few but it isn't that big of a deal.FWIW Chad
 
Well, I packed up my "Phillipino" Burris FFII today and sent it back. I just couldn't get over the fact that it wasn't made in the USA like Burris has always advertised. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif Bummer! When I ordered it, I couldn't believe the prices were so cheap, but now I know why! Foreign labor is cheaper I guess. I'm gonna get another Leupold VXII instead. Plus, I see where they offer a LR Duplex reticle which looks a lot like the ballistic plex anyway. At least it will be made in Beaverton OR, USA!/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
 
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I just ordered a VX-II with the lrv reticle. I will post an amateur review when I get it mounted up on my .25-06
fred


Hey Fred, that would be nice to hear a real world review on the new reticle. I've never even looked through one yet, just pics on the website. I for one would really appreciate your thoughts on it when you get it! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
The Phillipines are in the USA. but either way i have been wondering the same thing for a quality scope for my new calling rifle i have just ordered. its a .19 badger, i want the best scope i can get to maximize the accuracy of this rifle. burris was in the running, but the select, not the fullfeild II. the advice given to me was the quality was much better.
but since everyone says "as good as, or almost as good as the leupold" when compairing lesser pricer scopes, i said the heck with it! ive ordered the leupold VXII 4-12x50 with the LRduplex (like the burris balistic plex) now i know it will get the best customer service, the best craftsmenship, and the best clarity. and i dont have to worry where it was made, or if it will gather enough light for my hunting, i have a low end for calling fox and coyotes within 100 yards, and a high end for popping woodchucks all summer 300+yards. dont skimp on glass, you'll regret it.
the burris fullfeildII 4.5-14X42 deal with the spotting scope is like $350. thats a scarry deal.
the leupold VXII 4-12x50 with the balistic aiming system is $450.
ill pay 100 extra for someting i wont have to worry about the quality of.
 
Hay guys;
I just got in my new Nikon Buckmasters 6-18X40 side focus NP. On almost every corner of the box it says "Lifetime full warranty" under that it says "made in the philippines" in small print.
Nikon is a japanese company, looks like they are outsourceing to the philippines also.
The repair or service center is in El Segundo, Ca. Wonder if that's in kalifornia or mexico?
I have had a Nikon 4X12 on my 257 Roberts for 10 or 12 years, I could'nt ask for a better scope.
 
Just to add another twist to the "made in the Philippines" topic - well, I've been to the Philippines and saw a lot of good and bad, much like everywhere else I've ever been, including the good old USA. But, what impressed me the most was the work ethic and ingenuty of the people. They can make most anything out of nothing and make it good. They are hard workers and have strict standards. I should know, I married one! Ha. Their education system has very rigid standards, and unlike too many of our children, their's are taught respect and manners to boot.

Several years ago I purchased a neat little Pentax camera that had a lens unlike most any other I could find. It was rated tops in one of the photography magazines. It wasn't until I was in the Philippines and passed by the Pentax plant that I took a close look at my camera. On the bottom was a little label that said "assembled in the Philippines." It apparently wasn't made there, but definitely was put together there. It's a great camera.

I guess what I'm saying is, if it's good quality, then it's good, and if it shoddy quality, then it's not. Burris is an American company with American standards, and if the product is made or assembled in the Philippines, I think I could rely on the quality being good.

What bother's me the most is (if it's true) that Burris advertises American made when in fact it might not be. If that's true, then Burris will hurt itself by being misleading. I'll reserve judgement until I learn more about the facts.

For me at least, and for the price, I wouldn't hesitate choosing a Burris, Philippine-made scope if there is such a thing. Oh, and I dearly love my Leupolds.

That's just my two cents worth. Some of you may disagree with me and that's fine. I guess that's why there are so many scope makers around.

Good shooting to all.
 
Trying to clear things up a little bit here....Burris was recently purchased by the Beretta group...who owns a ton of companies now. That is why whenever you see an ad for Sako, Benelli, Tikka, Berretta, Franchi, Uberti, etc., the rifle/shotgun will always have a Burris on it. Any "promo" offer you see where "FREE" binocs or spotters are involved, will not be American made products. Pentax rifle scopes are ALL made by Burris---2MG
 
hello, i know i have already chimed in & i will somemore i checked out the burris ffII & a leupold xv-1 today at a local gunshop it was cloudy & i took both outside both are nice scopes i tried hard to convince myself the burris was as good as the leupold & couldn't do it.....other than the click adjustments vs the friction dials on the vx-1 i think a slight clearness advantage goes to the leupold even though the advertised light transmission is less on the leupold.there is no doubt unless something changes i will definately buy leupold scopes.the way to go i think is buy a vx-1 for comparable money or step up to a vx-11 get better glass & clicks. good luck...
 
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