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I ended up going with a Hawke 4-12x40 with a reticle set up for .17. It was on sale. Never had Hawke before. I did not want to go to crazy because I just bought a thermal. Honestly I want to switch back and forth with it. If I ever go all day hunting I might look at something different. I have long been a Leupold fan. I have heard good stuff about sightron but have never tried one. Thanks for all the input fellas.