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Swimmer, My son and I just got done over xmas break building (2) 6.5 grendels. I put a 4-20x50mm burris vercity and kolton put a 4.5-14x42mm burris E1 on his. Most of the ar's that I have are scoped with 4-14 or 4-16 scopes and have served us well shooting coyotes and even did well on shooting PD's. Might I ask what barrel your son used. I used an 18in odin and kolton used a 20in odin. And so far I have only put 5-10 rounds down mine. But kolton has put close to 50 down his shooting jack rabbits and rock squirrels. It makes a mess out of jacks with 100gr noslars.