Shelf Life of Urine

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Fisher Cat

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I trap on a very small scale and am about to retire from the army. I've got an unopened plastic squeeze bottle of O'Gorman's coyote urine and a relatively full bottle of their bobcat urine. Both bottles are from the 2000-2001 season and no evaporation has taken place. I don't have any glycerin and am tired of replacing urine every time the army moves me. If its worthwhile, I'll take it up to Maine in my truck. Is this old urine still likely to be good? Thanks - John
 
Welcome FisherCat. I must confess that I don't know the right answer to your question.

I usually use close to what I purchase each year. What I don't use, I take and do some pre season scent post establishment. Then order some fresh for the season. But with the ban on recreational trapping in my state a couple years ago, I have been working off the same urine I had 2 years ago for complaint work with no increase in refusals that I have noticed. But I have a refrigerator just for bait and urine. (The nerve of my wife not letting me keep it in the kitchen fridge. LOL /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif )

There is absolutely 0 trapping pressure here so no trap shy dogs.

I quit using bobcat urine years ago because the places I trapped bobcat held lots of porcupines and they seemed to like the salt in the urine. Didn't seem as big a problem in the places I normally trapped coyotes so still use coyote urine. For bobcats I use a 1/2 a large beaver or a whole small one (any fresh meat will work though) and a generous smear of castor.

Don't know if that makes any sense but it has worked better for me. Every trapper has their quirks. Ha

I will say this. The bobcat urine I had leftover worked just as good if not better at coyote sets.

Take care
 
Welcome to Predator Masters Fisher Cat.
I can't answer that question for sure either. But I would have to assume that it keeps for long time time. As Curt mentioned he keeps his refrigerated, I know my brother keeps and uses lures from one year to the next, also refrigerated.
 
I keep it frozen until use, I collect urine and glands from each animal harvested and freeze both ASAP. When you take a fox, coyote or cat remove the bladder from the abdomen after skinning and drop in a clean container with a ight sealing lid.
Take notice of the smell of fresh urine and glands and then smell the bottled aged stuff you buy. It's very different, I'm not saying it's bad but it doesn't smell like fresh urine. With cats the fresh urine is far more effective and I doubt that what you buy is real bobcat urine. I suspect it's cut with coyote or fox urine or is one of those entirely.
If I can tell the difference an animal sure can.
 
Originally posted by Bluedeacon:
[qb]If it's sealed tight and stored in a cool DARK place it will hold for years.[/qb]
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This statement is absolutely correct.

All urines have ammonia. (i have made a post on another thread here somewhere about this).

If the urine smells strongly of ammonia, leave the cap off awhile, and let the ammonia dissipate.

Recap it and shake well, should be as good as new.

on one of the above statements, it says that the bobcat urines are mixed with coyote or fox.

My products are not mixed with anything.

There is a definite smell to anything with coyote odor in it and the bobcat doesnt smell at all of this or fox odor, which is almost skunk-like when the animal is in heat.

Some companies may use this procedure but I dont.

By the way, I didnt take the statement in a bad way. You spoke from personal experience, and it seems all your experiences have been bad so far.

I have had to overcome all these type experiences that other companies have left as roadblocks. There will always be hurdles to overcome.

Sooner or later, my reputation will either make me or break me. I am betting on it making me.
 
Also i cant argue the point about fresh urine, when it comes out it is exactly the right temperature, and should have a different smell than some that has aged a bit.

and for urine that is not in esterus, saving the urine from animals you harvest is the procedure i recommend. Save money where you can.

Some urine from a male animal in close proximity to the in heat urine should cause a bit of disturbance in the local male.
 
If you are going to store urine properly from year to year the best way is to put it in clean GLASS bottles and keep in a cool dark place.
 


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