Shipping a rifle via UPS to FFL??

Its legal but I believe you must take it to one of the main offices not just a business that ships UPS. I have heard they can be pretty rough on packages so I ship all my guns through the USPS with insurance and delivery confirmation. It usually cost about $20 and the gun will get there in three days or less if shipped priority mail.
 
If you have an FFL that has a UPS account, the UPS driver can pick it up at his place of business. I pick them up all of the time. One of my buddy's has his FFL and I pick up rifles and pistols from him and the NRA when they are shipping rifles out. Make sure that you do a high value report, I would insure the gun for more than a 1000.00, just to cover your backside. There are some guys that have had some damages done while shipping their guns. I have never had a customer have a damaged gun that we shipped, but I am in a small center and have only worked there for 8 years.
 
I used to insure full value on everything. I noticed that the manufacturers don't insure when they mail a gun to my house.
This got me to thinking, I am paying them to do a job. If they screw it up then why do I have to pay for insurance and fight to process a claim?
I stopped paying insurance a few years ago. It seems to me that this has become an upsell for extra profits, just to cover their butts for not doing a good job.
Sorry gonzaga, nothing against you. Just my personal thinking on the matter.
 
No offense at all Tripod3, I don't throw any pkgs that are in my truck because I figure the customer paid for their stuff and they don't want it fixed.

The manufactures can replace things easier than any of us can.

If you don't want to pay insurance you don't have too, when I started clerking it was .35 per 100.00, I think it is .80 per 100.00 now. The way I figure, if I have to pay 5-7 extra bucks so that I can make sure that I have a legit shot of recovering my loss' I will do it, but that is my choice and thinking. Like I said, I have never had a lost pkg, or had to file a claim so I guess I am luck so far.
 
Yes. I have shipped 3 rifles in the past month using my neighborhood Pak-N-Ship store. The recipient doesn't need to be a FFL holder.
 
Originally Posted By: wahoowadThe recipient doesn't need to be a FFL holder.

Ya might wanna check into that a little further.

Always better to give out no information than bad information.

 
Originally Posted By: doggin coyotesYa might wanna check into that a little further.

Always better to give out no information than bad information.



I checked again and you are STILL wrong
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ATF reg, quoted from Gunbroker

Here is exactly what the ATF 'Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide' (ATF P 5300.4) says:
(B9) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state.

Read the underlined part. I understand it to say that shipping to a resident of your own state is the same as a face to face purchase.....no FFL necessary.
 
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Insure the heck out of 'em. I've received 2 damaged rifles this year, just ignored the minor damage (broken rear iron sight) on a 9422M; and had to fight HARD to have the Unertl scope replaced on the old benchrest rifle I bought. I took pictures of the cardboard box, the shredded cardboard packing, the ruined hard case, the broken mount, and had to have a scope repair business certify that the tube on the scope was bent! Then the jerk at corporate told me the rifle was "inadequately packed"! It looked like someone ran over it with a forklift, or a load shifted & fell on it. Luckily, I kept pictures, e-mailed copies to the sender, and e-mailed copies to the "adjuster", too. The shipper went to bat for me, so I didn't need to get my attorney involved. OR drive to San Antonio for a FTF discussion. Probably better that way!!
Mark
 
Originally Posted By: fw707ATF reg, quoted from Gunbroker

Here is exactly what the ATF 'Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide' (ATF P 5300.4) says:
(B9) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state.

Read the underlined part. I understand it to say that shipping to a resident of your own state is the same as a face to face purchase.....no FFL necessary.

THIS!!

Perfectly legal as long as the individual is OK to own a firearm in the state you reside.

Now, typically, like a FTF, you need to track, keep info, etc, but you can ship in state directly.
 
Originally Posted By: mark shubertInsure the heck out of 'em. Then the jerk at corporate told me the rifle was "inadequately packed"! It looked like someone ran over it with a forklift, or a load shifted & fell on it. Luckily, I kept pictures, e-mailed copies to the sender, and e-mailed copies to the "adjuster", too. The shipper went to bat for me, so I didn't need to get my attorney involved. OR drive to San Antonio for a FTF discussion. Probably better that way!!
Mark

This is a common tactic that the jerkbaits at both the post office and UPS use. All claims are denied using this inadequate packing excuse.

Bull! Your next line should be: What about it was inadequate and why did you accept it for carriage and insure it?

That puts them on the defensive and the burden of proof IS legally on them. If they don't drop the stalling and denial, tell them you'll slap them with a small claims suit. Depending on where you live, you may also be able to add damages beyond the scope of the insurance, like court fees, the cost of your time to litigate, etc.

Suddenly the jerkbait deniers will see the wisdom in coughing up what they owe you.

Grouse
 
If you use UPS , pay the extra money and ship next day air, OR if you declare over 5000.00 in value the package is practically hand carried thru the system after being tagged and bagged. I handled a few in my 30 years with Brown as a driver..
 


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