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The stukey that mongo has is stout. I built one copying the leg system off of the stukey, using smaller dia. pipe. I added a carpeted shelf underneath for ammo storage and cooling barrels in the shade. Hand holds serve to stand up rifles without the chance of knocking them over as with notches. I also found the 'tail' of the stukey to be too wide to let your elbow overhang the edge. No need to pad, if you can 'hook' your elbow over the edge.......