Shotshell Wad Identification HELP

[KS_Dog_Caller]

I acquired these along with a press and other shotshell equipment from a relative, but I am very ignorant when it comes to shotshell reloading. It seems that wad specs are important in the load data, though, so I would sure like to identify these (pictured below).

Also interested in any additional advice relative to loading with these, especially the applications of longer vs. shorter wads, etc., and what they might be equivalent to in more modern components. I plan to use Red Dot powder, as I also acquired a large amount of that along with these. I appreciate any advice! Thanks in advance!

12 guage.

20 guage.

 

[AWS]

Here you go, wads available at BPI

http://www.ballisticproducts.com/Wads/departments/83/?HP

Then there are Claybuster and Downrange wads. These companies make Rem, Fed and Win. clones.

Bottom picture L To R Left unknown to me, center Rem or clone, right Fed or clone.

 

[Bernie P.]

The most important thing is to follow the load data exactly.Component substitutions can cause extremely unpleasent results.

 

[ackleyman]

Green is a clone of a Rem RXP, I am pretty sure.

top right, White is Winchester 12AA

Top left, I think is a Pacific wad

They are both 1 1/8 oz shot cups, and red dot will work well with these.

 

[AWS]

And now PB has struck again, no pictures anymore for me.

 

[KS_Dog_Caller]

I appreciate all of the information, guys. Keeping the pics up sure is frustrating.

I do have one follow-up question; in which circumstance(s) (i.e. loads), would a person use a wad with a short column vs a longer column, if using the same amount of shot? Is it generally a difference in powder?

I have other questions, but will do my own research to save you the time.

Thanks Again for the help!

 

[AWS]

Different Straight wall hulls have different base wad heights, straight wall hulls are all hulls other than Rem Gun Club and RXP and Win AA which are taper wall hulls and taper wall hulls have less space in the bottom of the hull so the powder takes up more space. The newer Win AA HS is a straight wall hull with a tapered base wad making it a hybred that loads like the old one piece AA taper hull. Then you have different densities of powder taking up different amounts of space in the hull.

Lots to learn. By changing powders, primers, hulls and wads you can load the same shot charge to the same velocity from as low as 6000 psi for vintage guns to 11,000 psi for modern guns. You can also go way over pressure limits but using the the wrong combination or substituting just one of the components.

Buy a good Shotshell Manual, I have the BPI Advantages, the Lyman Shotshell Handbook and Load Data's 12ga book. There is a lot of good/necessary info in them, the Load Data book is just data, no loading info.