Sniper Rifles

Bearcat 74

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You all have probably seen this, I found it on the SnipersHide forums:

Monday, February 19, 2007

The tragic proliferation of Sniper Rifles

I would like to take a moment to comment on the proliferation of Sniper Rifles.
Sniper Rifles are typically equipped with a high-powered scope, and every single one of them can blow through the body armor cops wear. They can even penetrate multiple police cars. Does the Second Amendment protect cop-killer Sniper Rifles? The NRA certainly thinks so, along with the powerful gun lobby that wants your children and your law enforcement officers to be at risk from these weapons of mass destruction. Some of these Sniper Rifles can even penetrate ballistic or armored glass, lightly armored vehicles, and armored limousines. Senator Ted Kennedy attempted to solve this with an important bill that would have banned armor piercing ammunition and protected lawful firearm commerce:

"Another rifle caliber, the 30.30 caliber, was responsible for penetrating three officers' armor and killing them in 1993, 1996, and 2002. This ammunition is also capable of puncturing light-armored vehicles, ballistic or armored glass, armored limousines, even a 600-pound safe with 600 pounds of safe armor plating.....

..It is outrageous and unconscionable that such ammunition continues to be sold in the United States of America.."

Should our elected officials live under the threat of reprisal on their lives from disgruntled constituents? The Gun Lobby seems to think so. We disagree.

Sniper Rifles can be equipped with precision optics above even what the Military uses, allowing a sniper to deliver rounds within millimeters of accuracy - enabling them to engage targets at distances of well over one hundred meters. Is there a pressing need to be able to kill with accuracy at that distance? It is too far to justify as self defense. It is too far for hunting. It is only useful for those who wish to murder from afar.

Large caliber Sniper Rifles such as the .50 Browning Machine Gun can derail freight cars, shoot down aircraft and helicopters, damage vital ground equipment such as power substations, fuel tanks, and air traffic control, and cause complete chaos. For more information on why large caliber machine-gun rounds must be banned, visit http://www.50caliberterror.com. A shipment of large caliber machine-gun round sniper rifles made by Steyr turned up in Iran, and are being used on our own soldiers, as the .50 bullets easily defeat their body armor, their up-armored humvees, and even APCs.

Many forward thinking, progressive politicians such as Ted Kennedy, Chuck Schumer, Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama have voted against Center-Fire Rifle Ammunition of types for Sniper Rifles, but due to the pressure and massive financial resources of the gun industry, the necessary steps to protect our homes and lives have not been attained.

Sniper Rifles have been used by murderers and spree killers for years, with notable incidents such as the Beltway Snipers, the Clocktower Sniper, and more.

ANY rifle configured and equipped as a sniper rifle has no sporting purpose especially as a hunting rifle. They are too big and heavy to take to the field. Designed for distance shooting, they are useless for the ranges at which game animals are normally shot, and when used on sporting sized game at range they often just wound the animal, inhumanely forcing it to die slowly while the would-be hunter tracks it to finish it off. Most Sniper Rifles fire atypically large cartridges and ultra high velocity ammunition that can travel much greater distances that standard ammunition. The danger imposed from missed shots and ricochetes from these specialty rounds is unreasonable.

Most of these rifles carry multiple rounds, with either an automatic mechanism, or a quick toggle action to rapidly move another bullet into the breech, ready to fire into another victim. In most states, they are nearly unrestricted. Anyone over the age of 18 can buy one. If they can't pass a background check, they skirt the NCIS system by going to a gunshow, or finding a private sale in the newspaper. A murderer camped at a distance from a public gathering could quickly turn it into a massacre dwarfing anything we have seen before in the United States, if they had a Sniper Rifle. If they adopted hit and run tactics, entire portions of our country could be shut down.

Sniper Rifles shoot a high powered bullet that is almost always fatal. They are designed for one thing- delivering powerful overkill with deadly precision. You don't need the kind of power and accuracy that can kill a man at five hundred yards for hunting rabbits or defending your house.

We should also give commendations to France because many years ago they designated any firearm capable of shooting military ammunition as a military arm, illegal to posess without a special permit and unlawful to use for hunting. The 223, 308, 7mm mauser, 30-06, and 6.5x55 have no place in the hunting fields of France. Firearms shooting these calibers are military weapons only designed for killing PEOPLE and should be kept out of the hands of the general population. Because they have no hunting purpose, there is no reason for civilians to own them.

Every state in the USA has hunting equipment rules that limit the caliber of firearm used to take game. They also limit the types of rifles, length, magazine capacity, etc. States should amend these hunting regulations to restrict the use of "sniper" rifles, specialty "sniper" cartridges, and "sniper" ammunition. Limits on weight, barrel length, bipods and tripods, thumbhole stocks and pistol grips, night vision type scopes, scopes of excessive magnification, super magnum and high velocity ammunition, and military slings should be imposed. They have no place in the hunting fields of America and hunting usage should not be used as an argument for civilians to own such firearms and weapons. There are more than ample hunting rifles, cartridges, and rounds of ammunition to choose from without them.

Let us hope that in a safer, saner America, we will succeed in our efforts to restrict the deadly spread of long distance murder rifles.
 
What a load of tripe. I'm sorry I wasted a few minutes of my life reading it. I gotta say, though, the lefties oughta focus their efforts on sniper rifles chambered in .30-30 .. lol ... that should keep em busy for awhile. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
that article is wrote by a total lib, in one paragraph it says shooting animals at extended ranges causes wounding but then comes back and says that sniper calibers always kill. it is clear they know nothing about guns, so I guess a 223 is illegal but a 270 win or 300 mag would be legal?? this is why democrats should never ever be allowed in office
 
It's tongue-and-cheek sarcasm in response to the idiot blog Zumbo made about ARs. It's meant to be ridiculous to make a point.
 
Hey, the writer states that the .50BMG will derail freight cars. This I would like to see. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif This is just the thunder before the storm of an all out attack on any firearm. Even though this garbage writing is full of holes, the average numb-numb American will believe it. It is up to us to speak the truth in a positive, objective way. Long live the HDR! (Homeland Defense Rifle)
 
Guys, this is from SNIPERS HIDE forums. It's a JOKE!! It's meant as a parody of Jim Zumbos blog this weekend calling for a ban on ARs (terrorist rifles).

IT WAS INTENDED TO BE RIDICULOUS!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
 
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Guys, this is from SNIPERS HIDE forums. It's a JOKE!! It's meant as a parody of Jim Zumbos blog this weekend calling for a ban on ARs (terrorist rifles). IT WAS INTENDED TO BE RIDICULOUS!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif



That may be, but it reads exactly like the crap the gun ban proponents would write, mixing truth with idiocy and throwing in a few statistics or so-called "facts". As a joke, its not particularly funny, imho.
 
Ya what a load of crap I guess I should probably scrap my .223 and my .308 huh. Well that is never going to happen so, we can all forget about this artcle right now. People lose sight way to often that no matter what gun a person has it isn't th gun killing people it is the person holdin the gun that kills people.
 
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You all have probably seen this, I found it on the SnipersHide forums:

Monday, February 19, 2007

The tragic proliferation of Sniper Rifles

I would like to take a moment to comment on the proliferation of Sniper Rifles.
Sniper Rifles are typically equipped with a high-powered scope, and every single one of them can blow through the body armor cops wear. They can even penetrate multiple police cars. Does the Second Amendment protect cop-killer Sniper Rifles? The NRA certainly thinks so, along with the powerful gun lobby that wants your children and your law enforcement officers to be at risk from these weapons of mass destruction. Some of these Sniper Rifles can even penetrate ballistic or armored glass, lightly armored vehicles, and armored limousines. Senator Ted Kennedy attempted to solve this with an important bill that would have banned armor piercing ammunition and protected lawful firearm commerce:

"Another rifle caliber, the 30.30 caliber, was responsible for penetrating three officers' armor and killing them in 1993, 1996, and 2002. This ammunition is also capable of puncturing light-armored vehicles, ballistic or armored glass, armored limousines, even a 600-pound safe with 600 pounds of safe armor plating.....

..It is outrageous and unconscionable that such ammunition continues to be sold in the United States of America.."

Should our elected officials live under the threat of reprisal on their lives from disgruntled constituents? The Gun Lobby seems to think so. We disagree.

Sniper Rifles can be equipped with precision optics above even what the Military uses, allowing a sniper to deliver rounds within millimeters of accuracy - enabling them to engage targets at distances of well over one hundred meters. Is there a pressing need to be able to kill with accuracy at that distance? It is too far to justify as self defense. It is too far for hunting. It is only useful for those who wish to murder from afar.

Large caliber Sniper Rifles such as the .50 Browning Machine Gun can derail freight cars, shoot down aircraft and helicopters, damage vital ground equipment such as power substations, fuel tanks, and air traffic control, and cause complete chaos. For more information on why large caliber machine-gun rounds must be banned, visit http://www.50caliberterror.com. A shipment of large caliber machine-gun round sniper rifles made by Steyr turned up in Iran, and are being used on our own soldiers, as the .50 bullets easily defeat their body armor, their up-armored humvees, and even APCs.

Many forward thinking, progressive politicians such as Ted Kennedy, Chuck Schumer, Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama have voted against Center-Fire Rifle Ammunition of types for Sniper Rifles, but due to the pressure and massive financial resources of the gun industry, the necessary steps to protect our homes and lives have not been attained.

Sniper Rifles have been used by murderers and spree killers for years, with notable incidents such as the Beltway Snipers, the Clocktower Sniper, and more.

ANY rifle configured and equipped as a sniper rifle has no sporting purpose especially as a hunting rifle. They are too big and heavy to take to the field. Designed for distance shooting, they are useless for the ranges at which game animals are normally shot, and when used on sporting sized game at range they often just wound the animal, inhumanely forcing it to die slowly while the would-be hunter tracks it to finish it off. Most Sniper Rifles fire atypically large cartridges and ultra high velocity ammunition that can travel much greater distances that standard ammunition. The danger imposed from missed shots and ricochetes from these specialty rounds is unreasonable.

Most of these rifles carry multiple rounds, with either an automatic mechanism, or a quick toggle action to rapidly move another bullet into the breech, ready to fire into another victim. In most states, they are nearly unrestricted. Anyone over the age of 18 can buy one. If they can't pass a background check, they skirt the NCIS system by going to a gunshow, or finding a private sale in the newspaper. A murderer camped at a distance from a public gathering could quickly turn it into a massacre dwarfing anything we have seen before in the United States, if they had a Sniper Rifle. If they adopted hit and run tactics, entire portions of our country could be shut down.

Sniper Rifles shoot a high powered bullet that is almost always fatal. They are designed for one thing- delivering powerful overkill with deadly precision. You don't need the kind of power and accuracy that can kill a man at five hundred yards for hunting rabbits or defending your house.

We should also give commendations to France because many years ago they designated any firearm capable of shooting military ammunition as a military arm, illegal to posess without a special permit and unlawful to use for hunting. The 223, 308, 7mm mauser, 30-06, and 6.5x55 have no place in the hunting fields of France. Firearms shooting these calibers are military weapons only designed for killing PEOPLE and should be kept out of the hands of the general population. Because they have no hunting purpose, there is no reason for civilians to own them.

Every state in the USA has hunting equipment rules that limit the caliber of firearm used to take game. They also limit the types of rifles, length, magazine capacity, etc. States should amend these hunting regulations to restrict the use of "sniper" rifles, specialty "sniper" cartridges, and "sniper" ammunition. Limits on weight, barrel length, bipods and tripods, thumbhole stocks and pistol grips, night vision type scopes, scopes of excessive magnification, super magnum and high velocity ammunition, and military slings should be imposed. They have no place in the hunting fields of America and hunting usage should not be used as an argument for civilians to own such firearms and weapons. There are more than ample hunting rifles, cartridges, and rounds of ammunition to choose from without them.

Let us hope that in a safer, saner America, we will succeed in our efforts to restrict the deadly spread of long distance murder rifles.


I actually read this first on the 'Brady Bunch' website. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
 
Leon. it was not a joke. I haven't been to Snipers HIde. I saw it on the Brady Campaign web blog. It is for real. It came out just after they copied and pasted the comments from Zumbo. It shows they are after all guns. Just name it something menacing and they feel it will work.
 
I'm pretty sure I read something very similar to this -may have been identical- from the brady bunch way back during clinton's 1st term. 1993 or 94, it was before the republicans won the 94 elections.
 
May have Stu. I saw it yesterday and am looking for it again. This was on a Blog as of yesterday. They had copied Zumbos post and talked about how good it was to finally have a gun writer admit AR's were not needed in hunting. Then the very next entry was about the Sniper Rifles. It was the article that is posted above.
 
We can thank Zumbos A@# for this crap , some one should send it to him and shove it down his neck , we have enough problems with the libs , but now we have a so called outdoors man speaking againsts us , his apollogy , he can shove it to.
 
At least Zumbos was man enough to put his name on his blog. This article above (at least as presented to us) doesn't tell us where the poster found it or even who the writer was.

All of us who enjoy the shooting sports need to realize that there LOTS of people out there that actively want to take your guns, and your rights to those guns, away from you.

However, be smart when you read such tripe, and look for such things as who wrote it, when they wrote it, and who it was written for, before spending all your thoughts and emotions on junk mail that came from who knows where. You can't fight that type of article, but you can be sure that Zumbo, Outdoor Life, Remington and others sitting on the fence or even supporing then fence, heard the uproar caused by not thinking before writting.
 
I read on another forum that this trash was from the Brady bunch. So, I'm not sure if they actually wrote it or copied it from somewhere else.
 
I totally agree with the statement! Those 30/30's are vicious rounds! I'm pretty sure the only purpose for one could be to kill people! (note sarcasm)

How do we get people that stupid out of the gene pool. Maybe a 30/30 will do the trick.
 
Read between the lines according to that loons deffinition, any modern rifle is a sniper rifle heck most of the 18th century hunting arms can be considered sniper rifles as well.
Any more compromises will result in the death of the second amendmet.
Every time we compromise or concede any thing we lose, because they always come back wanting more.

This is all a lead up to new more restrictive controls as soon as the libs can consolodate the power they got in the last election or if god forbid they get any of the lib dem candadate in the white house we will see a new round of senate hearings with a lot of false testimony about how many police officers get killed every year with assault and sniper rifles, not to mention the "cop Killer" hollow point sniper ammo that is readaly avalible and the plastic pistols that terrorists can smuggle into airports.
E#nough false information to get the uninformed public behind them, then a constitutional amendment makeing the private ownership of any firearm or centerfire ammunition being illegal.
They are working on it and the attempt is coming you can bet on it.
 
"Many forward thinking, progressive politicians such as Ted Kennedy"

My evil "sniper" rifles and HDRs have killed less people that Uncle Teddys car..........
 


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