So I Installed My Geissele Trigger...

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Nitroman

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I bought a Geissele National Match 2-stage for my lower to complement the spacegun upper Mike built for me. Not bad installing it. Actually pretty easy considering the exhaustive instructions that take into account nearly everything when it comes to the installation and how the trigger works.

From the factory the first stage came to a stop at 1 pound 15 ounces exactly according to my digital trigger-pull gage. The second breaks at 2 pounds 13 ounces and this with me not even doing much adjusting at all! I just followed the instructions for the sear engagement and shazaam! And the second stage break is clean.

Only thing I cannot figure out is when the hammer is cocked, the trigger has some drag on it. I think it may be the pins are so precisely ground to size they need to be polished. When the hammer is not cocked the trigger feels like it is rotating on an oiled glass rod. I like that alot. I think I'll call the good folks at Geissele in the morning and ask them what they think.

$318.00 delivered is a lot of money for me, but the difference between the OEM and this is worth it. Especially that clean 2nd-stage break.
 
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Well there Willy, I am happy for you. Some folks are satisfied with mid-range products, some aren't. I asked around on various forums who made the best cost-no-object AR trigger, many of the replies I received were from serious competitors, some very serious who had been competing for many years and had tried virtually every trigger out there, and the consensus was Jewell or Geissele. After studying the materials that were shipped with the Jewell and what I could find on Geissele's website, I went with Geissele.

I would have called them today but I've been working on getting my lathe set up.
 
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well there you go...just doomed yourself to everybody in the world telling you that they have virtually the same thing and they spent pennies on your dollar. But you can just smile and reflect inwards to find your peace in the fact that unless it begins with a "G" and ends with a whole bunch of other letters us common folk can't seem to pronounce, they know not of what they speaketh...

welcome to never loving another AR trigger again.

better start putting in for some serious overtime...
 
Mine's an SD-E but I noticed some of what you mention. When the trigger's loaded with the force of the hammer spring you do notice a wee bit of drag pulling through the first stage. I think its the load the hammer spring puts,on the trigger pin when cocked.

That seems to vanished on mine as the rounds add up. Another thing I noticed is that the trigger and hammer pins rotate in the receiver. I had a chat with the folks at Geissele about it and their take is that's how it's supposed to work.

They also recommend strongly against using KNS anti walk/rotate pins.
 
Originally Posted By: bushywell there you go...just doomed yourself to everybody in the world telling you that they have virtually the same thing and they spent pennies on your dollar. But you can just smile and reflect inwards to find your peace in the fact that unless it begins with a "G" and ends with a whole bunch of other letters us common folk can't seem to pronounce, they know not of what they speaketh...

welcome to never loving another AR trigger again.

better start putting in for some serious overtime...

Pronounced "guess-ily".
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I disagree. I am sureth of what he spake: he bought a Jard for 1/2 of what I spent. But then I didn't find many recommending that brand as being "the best cost-no-object" which is what I was looking for.
 
Originally Posted By: NitromanOriginally Posted By: bushywell there you go...just doomed yourself to everybody in the world telling you that they have virtually the same thing and they spent pennies on your dollar. But you can just smile and reflect inwards to find your peace in the fact that unless it begins with a "G" and ends with a whole bunch of other letters us common folk can't seem to pronounce, they know not of what they speaketh...

welcome to never loving another AR trigger again.

better start putting in for some serious overtime...

Pronounced "guess-ily".
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I disagree. I am sureth of what he spake: he bought a Jard for 1/2 of what I spent. But then I didn't find many recommending that brand as being "the best cost-no-object" which is what I was looking for.

Not to be nit piking so please don't take it that way. It took me about 3 years to finally learn the correct pronunciation of "Geissele".

Pronounced "guys-lee". This comes from Mr. G. himself.

Years ago when all but a very few knew about his triggers, I went on a "mission" to find the best AR trigger available. I spent hours, and hours reading different AR forums. This was after I wasted about $100.00 on a RRA two stage trigger. What a piece of junk, at least for my intended use.

I am almost exclusively a PD hunter, and at least in my case I need a very good trigger for shots in the 500 yd. range.

So after I had completed these hours, and hours of research, the hands down winner was the Geissele High Speed Trigger. It was really no contest after I had completed my research.

So I purchased my first Geissele trigger which was a DMR High Speed. At that time they only offered 3 different triggers. with the only difference being the springs on each IIRC. Also at that time, there was no video on the installation, but I found it very easy to install, and adjust.

My kill ratio went waaayyyy up after the installation of the DMR. I couldn't have been any more happy with my selection !!!!

Tried passing along my complete satisfaction with this trigger on this forum, but they didn't want to hear it, as Jewell was number one around here at the time. So I quit wasting my time sharing all the research I had done, and the outcome of said research.

So about a year ago, I purchased my second DMR, and I am just as happy with it as the first DMR. I use 3 AR's for my PD hunting, so I really need one more DMR to have my 3 PD AR's completely outfitted. However if you're an AR shooter, you know how prices on anything AR related have skyrocketed thru the roof, so I'm forced due to economics to wait a while longer before I can purchase the 3rd DMR.

So as far as I'm concerned it's DMR all the way for me. Of course YMMV.

Hangtime
 
Geissele made my AR so much more fun to shoot.I love shooting it just to feel how good the trigger is.I think it is well worth the money considering what you get for your money.It sucks to spend almost as much then not be completely happy with what you have,after all,it is something you want to enjoy,not something you have to have.
 
I have the RR 2 stage match and belive it is the best of the factory offerings that I've owned over the years. I also have one lower with the 3# Timmeny which is an excellent single stage, but my favorite is my SD-E which is perfect and worth every $ of the $195 that it cost. Now, if I had the skill set to hone sears,etc and produce an equal to the "G" I would have a permanent smile on my face. Regards
 
I too made the rounds with after market triggers. Geissle is the best of what I've tried. Made me a much better AR shooter. In my opinion optics and trigger make the difference between a fair and an excellent firearm. Also can make a fair shooter much better.
 
I have been looking at lowers and found one that gomes with a G2S. What kind of trigger is this. I am just worried that it is a very low end of the G line and that I would have been better off with the RRA 2 stage.
 
I've never tried one, but that would be the one I would buy. The designer put all of his talent into designing the trigger and now he is reaping the rewards.
 


Only thing I cannot figure out is when the hammer is cocked, the trigger has some drag on it.

Nitro, just wondering if you got this problem resolved? Jacked around today with my new high speed NM, had same problem regarding the cocked position equalling drag trigger, finally figured what was causing this. Now she's runnin like glass all around.
 
The Geisselle trigger must be lubed with grease at the sears and pins prior to installation or it will feel gritty. In fact, even GI AR triggers improve greatly when greased.

Nickel Never Seez works even better
 
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I use two of the Timney 3#'s in some of my varmint guns and they do double duty in 3 Gun for me. When I decided to start shooting F-Class I made the call and got the Geissele HS trigger. I got all three sets of springs so I can play different games.

I had some super triggers before that were custom done before the aftermarkets came out. Now I am scheming to build a couple more lowers with the same Geissele trigger so I don't have to swap it around when I want the absolute best performance way out there on different rifles.

Greg
 
I have, at one point or the other, owned almost every single AR trigger there is. I own a bunch of AR's. I currently have Geissele, Timney, KAC, Chip McCormick, RRA Two stage, and probably a couple more trigger groups I am forgetting. But I always find myself saving the coin to buy another Geissele
SD-E. They are the easiest trigger to install and no worry of ever having to adjust anything, which I like. They are sweet to say the least and worth every penny spent. I am building another upper now and the lower will have another SD-E.
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