Standard Small Rifle Primers...

gene10pntr

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What do most of you use or think is the best for just for target practice? Does one brand work better than another depending on the caliber? I use CCI 400's or Winchester's and I don't notice any difference. Just looking for opinions...

Thanks!!!
Gene
 
That would depend on what you mean by "the best", are you target practicing for groups or distance of just out to go plinking.

In my reloading experience primers are somewhat of a toss up. Sometimes it doesn't matter whatsoever which primer you use and sometimes changing the primer is the magic ticket to those teeny tiny groups we all love to chase.

So to answer your question all of them, none of them, yes, no, maybe. If your just loading some blasting ammo whatever you can get your hands on the cheapest.
 
Whether it's for target or hunting, AR or bolt action, in my .204s, I get much better accuracy with magnum primers than standard. In my .223s, it doesn't seem to make much difference..
 
Unless you are looking the best accuracy it probably won't matter. If you are at or near max load the heavier cup primers will hold up better than the cci 400.
 
Gene,, I use the magnum primers in both .204s...The improved grouping factor is pretty small, but I'm always pushing for the best consistent accuracy that I can achieve..The only load I've shot in them so far is the 39gr SBKs with W-748...I have several hundred rounds of Nosler 32gr, but never worked up a load since getting them..
 
Originally Posted By: whyUnless you are looking the best accuracy it probably won't matter. If you are at or near max load the heavier cup primers will hold up better than the cci 400.

Agree with above about the CCI400. Also, I too prefer to use a small rifle magnum primer in my .223 or 6mm-223/aka 6x45.
 
Quote:I need some education here - what is the difference between the magnum and regular small rifle primer?...Aside from the obvious that it has a little hotter charge, the metal on the magnum primers is a little thicker...

Depending on round and powder used, sometimes the extra oomph is needed for a complete or efficient burn of the powder...Any semi-auto that has a free floating firing pin has the potential for a 'slam fire' by the firing pin striking the primer as the round is chambered and the thicker primer cup tends to reduce this possibility...While it seldom happens, it is a possibility..
 
from the Speer reloading manual.

Magnum Primers

Magnum primers contain a greater amount and/or slightly different explosive mix than is used in standard primers. On ignition, magnum primers give longer burning, hotter flames. Their use is recommended for (1) any ammunition that will be used at or below zero degrees F., (2) with most Ball powders and (3) with slow burning rifle powders like MRP and IMR 4831 in very large cases. Magnum pistol primers often will give more uniform velocities in magnum handgun cartridges loaded with large charges or slow powders like 296, 2400 and H-110. Magnum primers may be used with faster burning or easy-to-ignite powders, but normally there will be no advantage in doing so. As when changing other components, it is advisable to reduce powder charge weights on initial loading with magnum primers.

Magnum primers tend to have a thicker cup material also.

When I was hunting or target shooting back in MN there were times that extremely low temps (-30) that I could hear the firing pin strike before the shell ignited, never a missfire but a slight hang fire with standard primers in larger cases and have pretty much gone to Magnums for all my hunting loads and high intensity loads. I use standard SR primers in the 22H and 218 Bee and cast bullet loads and magnum primers for all others.

LR primers I use standard primers with all my rimmed cases 22 Highpower, 6.5x58R, 9.3x72R with stick powders and cast bullet loads in all cases and Magnums for everything else.
 
For high pressure loads stay away from cci 400's, they will blow when other primers with the same high pressure load wont, 205, rem 7/1/2, win srp are ok too.
 
I have never found that one primer makes the load any more accurate than the other. But I have found that changing primers can reduce ES / SD. Now I have seen velocity changes between different primers but that is it. After I have established powder charge and completed seating depth testing I will then do primer testing only if ES / SD need to be lowered. Being that my powder charge and seating depth are already established is why I may not be seeing any difference in primers when it comes to accuracy. I just did a 300 BO load work up with 125 TMK's and Lil Gun and I tested 3 primers at the end to get ES / SD's down and went with CCI 41 because the ES / SD numbers came way down and that was the only difference. No difference in accuracy, that I noticed and only slight variation in velocity.
 
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