Super Sniper scopes?? tactical vs varminter

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djscott

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I'm doing as much research as I can for my new scope purchase. I plan on replacing the tired Tasco 6-24x44 that sits on top of my new RRA.
I'm trying to buy the best glass I can afford which is limited to 3-450.00 for now.
The new Super Sniper Scope in 10x sounds great by the reveiws I have read, its 399.00 and they its right there with scopes that cost 2-3 times that.
What are your thoughts and in plain english can somone explain the differeance between a tactical scope and one used for varmint hunting.
Thanks
Dallas
 
The SS scopes are good scopes for the money, right up there with a few of the higher end scopes. That being said, I think that 10x is too much for average coyote hunting.
 
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I'm doing as much research as I can for my new scope purchase. I plan on replacing the tired Tasco 6-24x44 that sits on top of my new RRA.
I'm trying to buy the best glass I can afford which is limited to 3-450.00 for now.
The new Super Sniper Scope in 10x sounds great by the reviews I have read, its 399.00 and they its right there with scopes that cost 2-3 times that.
What are your thoughts and in plain English can someone explain the difference between a tactical scope and one used for varmint hunting.
Thanks
Dallas



"... that cost 2-3 times that."?

$800 to $1,200 can buy you a dammn lot of glass these days. That kind of money puts you into the upper end Leupolds, and lower end Schmidt & Benders.

Who/what/where did you read these "reviews" of the Super Duper Sniper Scope?

It has always been considered a so-so scope. It's OK, but nothing to brag about.

The difference between a tactical and varmint scope has been blurred in the last four or five years, because the word "Tactical" is now attached to everything in the shooting game - including "Tactical ATVs" (for attacking the local supermarket)

Tactical scopes usually have mil-dots, which will NOT range your varmints - you must know the exact size to be able to use the range finding feature... but a lot of shooters just use the dots for hold over, and hold off for wind, which is handy.

For varminting scopes, you will probably want more than the 10x that tactical scopes usually offer.

For $400, you can get a pretty dammn fine varmint scope. For $800 to $1,200, you can get scopes that will shock your senses with quality.

The Super Duper Sniper Scope is not one of them.


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Leupold has the best warranty of any scope on the market plus they make a damned fine scope. IMO (and a lot of experience behind it) 10x is too much for daytime calling. Leupold makes a VXI 3-9X50 that is perfect for calling and fits well into the budget you mentioned. Better yet is the VXII 4-12X50 which is at the upper end of your budget. I put one of these on my Kimber 22-250 and it's an ideal setup. You get a great field of view and can adjust your power to fit the situation.
 
I have a 10x SS and some 4-14 Leopolds, no problems with either one. I plan on getting another SS this year. I think 10x is about the best setting for calling or hunt and stalk. If you don't believe me you could ask the local population of coyotes, but they won't answer cause most are dead.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Leupold 6-18X is a fine scope within reasonable cost. Good to have the extra power when at the range, etc. You mentioned all you could spend "for now" - like you can spend more later or trade up. Well, you will be in for a shock when you go to trade a Super Sniper and get offered a fraction of what you paid. Spend a little more than the entry model Leupold and you can get a target model. Careful shopping will get you in the mid to high $400 range.
 
Super Sniper scopes are very good for the money, but they're not hunting scopes by any means. I have a 16x42 on my Remington 700 Police .308.
 
I have a SS 10X scope and I also have a few 4.5-14 Leupolds. I'll take the Leupold Vari-X III or the Mark 4 any day over the Super Sniper fixed 10 power. I shoot in wide open wheat field country and that is where the proof of the pudding really shows it's stuff. The Super Sniper is a fair scope but no where near what an $800 - $1200 scope is. If you plan on buying the SS scope just be aware it is just that... a $300 scope.

The fixed 10 power is way too much for most.....predator hunting situations. It's great for shooting at fixed targets from a rest and the adjustments work pretty darn good too. I would steer you towards the varible power class in a 3 - 10 or 4 - 12 power long before I would recommend a fixed 10. Now, if you are shooting at P-Dogs all day, then the Super Duper Hyper Sniper Scope would work well.
 
Quote:but they're not hunting scopes by any means.
And why is that?

Quote:I shoot in wide open wheat field country and that is where the proof of the pudding really shows it's stuff.
I also hunt wide open country of southern Mn. and S.D. and the SS has never let me down. I have a BDC dial installed on mine and the click adjustments are very repeatable. I also own and use other Leopolds besides the 4-14 Var-III's.. Yes the Leopolds have much better glass but its not needed for shooting coyotes only for shooting paper targets..I've had the SS since it first came out and have never had to have it worked on or my Leopolds.
 
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Quote:but they're not hunting scopes by any means.
And why is that?

Quote:I shoot in wide open wheat field country and that is where the proof of the pudding really shows it's stuff.
I also hunt wide open country of southern Mn. and S.D. and the SS has never let me down. I have a BDC dial installed on mine and the click adjustments are very repeatable. I also own and use other Leopolds besides the 4-14 Var-III's.. Yes the Leopolds have much better glass but its not needed for shooting coyotes only for shooting paper targets..I've had the SS since it first came out and have never had to have it worked on or my Leopolds.




Didn't say it was a bad scope, just not my preference of scopes over the higher-end varible glass on the market. I would use my SS scope over to my Leupold Rifleman scope any day but certainly not my Mark 4 or Vari-X III's, mainly due to the fact they are varibles and yes, the glass is much better on them. The SS scope is fine for hunting coyotes even a Bushnell, BSA, Tasco or Barska would work equally as well for most hunters. But that don't mean a Tasco is equal to a SS or the SS is equal to a Nightforce in quality.
 
In your price range, i would take a hard look at the Zeiss Conquest 3-9. Adjustments are very good, and IMO the clarity is better than the Leupolds I own that are of comparable cost.
 
The SS are not bad for the money. I agree with camopaint though, a 10X would not be my preferred choice for a varmint scope. My shots always seem to be closer than a 10X would let me shoot.
 
Ok It seems leopuld seems to be the favorite choice, I have looked on ebay and found some deals mostly in the vxII and vxIII.A couple 3-10x50 and one 6-24x50, I really like the 3-10 simply because I think it enough for my ranges even on wood chucks out to 300ish..plus it had target turrets. This may be a dumb question but of all the leopulds I looked at none of them had the adjustable objective. Is that standard or was I just looking at the lower priced ones.Of the ones I'm watching they can all be bought for 3-450.
Your thoughts?
 
Be especially cautious buying on Ebay, there are a number of chinese Leupold knock-offs being sold there. Just pay close attention to the sellers info and feedbacks.

Leupold lists several VX-III that do not have the AO.

Another line is the Nikon Monarch scopes, take a look, they are pretty good quality for the money
 
+1 on the Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40
Dang clear scope, clean look, quick focus, and holds zero on my Model 7 in .300SAUM.... And that is saying something!
 
I have a BSA Contender 6-24x. It's not an expensive scope ($115) but it holds its zero, doesn't fog up, clear enough view for me to hit whatever I'm aiming at.

Price doesn't always dictate quality.
 
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