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I bought an encore a few years ago and have been fairly satisfied with it. I use 150 grains of white hots and a 300 grain bullet by dead center. At 200 yards it shoots about 3 to 4 inch groups. My daughter shot her first two does last year using it one at 90 yards and the second at 150 yards. Last year I had one of those moments and had to buy another gun and ended up with an Ultimate muzzle loader. It has a bolt action and uses a 45 cal casing and primer. With 200 grains of triple seven it can put it on target at 400 yards. Love both guns but now the t/c is the wife and daughters.

[QUOTE="ken brown, post: 1613158, member: 26586"] I bought an encore a few years ago and have been fairly satisfied with it. I use 150 grains of white hots and a 300 grain bullet by dead center. At 200 yards it shoots about 3 to 4 inch groups. My daughter shot her first two does last year using it one at 90 yards and the second at 150 yards. Last year I had one of those moments and had to buy another gun and ended up with an Ultimate muzzle loader. It has a bolt action and uses a 45 cal casing and primer. With 200 grains of triple seven it can put it on target at 400 yards. Love both guns but now the t/c is the wife and daughters. [/QUOTE]

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