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I'm a Knight guy(4) but the others would be fine. I also like the Hornady 250 grn SST sabot. I'm also a big fan of the new Blackhorn 209 powder. It does take a few particulars to use it reliably, but easy to do with a modern in-line. I have my Knight all tricked out with a Burris scope & I really like hunting with it. I took 9 deer & a coyote last Fall, hunting 2 states. One location had a bunch of anterless tags. My charge is in the 115 grn area with B209 & a 250 grn SST.