Taurus Judge

Badly. But then the judge does everything badly
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The last patterning I saw was donut shaped after a few feet if memory serves.
 
I was wondering about the 'donut' affect. I had a single shot 45/410 years ago it had riflings and left a big hole in the middle. I kept missing grouse with it and finally patterned it on paper to see what the problem was. I was hoping that Taurus had maybe fixed that type of problem with the Judge. I thought it would be handy for a close up grouse gun.
 
Originally Posted By: jumprightinitI was wondering about the 'donut' affect. I had a single shot 45/410 years ago it had riflings and left a big hole in the middle. I kept missing grouse with it and finally patterned it on paper to see what the problem was. I was hoping that Taurus had maybe fixed that type of problem with the Judge. I thought it would be handy for a close up grouse gun.


They haven't fixed it they "sprinkle" your shot. If you want a great .410 revolver that actually patterns good and don't mind the price being a bit violating the Magnum Research BFR can't be beat

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I have shot many rabbits over my beagles with mine...it's a very good revolver....excellent trigger and good lock up. I have no regrets on the one I purchased about 7 yrs ago.
 
Originally Posted By: jumprightinitI was wondering about the 'donut' affect. I had a single shot 45/410 years ago it had riflings and left a big hole in the middle. I kept missing grouse with it and finally patterned it on paper to see what the problem was. I was hoping that Taurus had maybe fixed that type of problem with the Judge. I thought it would be handy for a close up grouse gun.

The problem can't be fixed without defying physics. A smooth bore gives fullish patterns, a rifled bore gives donuts. The judge isn't the first combo out there, they've just done better on marketing.

No matter what you end up with a poorly performing shotgun and a poorly performing pistol. Useable to an extent but never in the same ballpark as a dedicated weapon.
 
Originally Posted By: NdIndyOriginally Posted By: jumprightinitI was wondering about the 'donut' affect. I had a single shot 45/410 years ago it had riflings and left a big hole in the middle. I kept missing grouse with it and finally patterned it on paper to see what the problem was. I was hoping that Taurus had maybe fixed that type of problem with the Judge. I thought it would be handy for a close up grouse gun.

The problem can't be fixed without defying physics. A smooth bore gives fullish patterns, a rifled bore gives donuts. The judge isn't the first combo out there, they've just done better on marketing.

No matter what you end up with a poorly performing shotgun and a poorly performing pistol. Useable to an extent but never in the same ballpark as a dedicated weapon.

Nice way of saying... "[beeep] on a boar hog."
 
Originally Posted By: NdIndyOriginally Posted By: jumprightinitI was wondering about the 'donut' affect. I had a single shot 45/410 years ago it had riflings and left a big hole in the middle. I kept missing grouse with it and finally patterned it on paper to see what the problem was. I was hoping that Taurus had maybe fixed that type of problem with the Judge. I thought it would be handy for a close up grouse gun.

The problem can't be fixed without defying physics. A smooth bore gives fullish patterns, a rifled bore gives donuts. The judge isn't the first combo out there, they've just done better on marketing.

No matter what you end up with a poorly performing shotgun and a poorly performing pistol. Useable to an extent but never in the same ballpark as a dedicated weapon.

With a choke to stop the wad from spinning the .45/.410 combo's generally work very well with .410 shells. Contenders have been doing great for years, I can't tell much difference in performance between my .410 dedicated shotgun and my BFR .410 revolver. They both pattern alot closer than I would have expected.
 
I have a single shot pistol I bought off of buds gun shop. Its called a super commanche made by bersa. It has rifled barrel but also comes with two chokes one for the 410 and one for the 45 colt. It patterns decent for a 180 dollar butt ugly gun.
 


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