'The Libertarian Movement In America', a primer.

ADK

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I've been puzzled lately regarding the seemingly contradictory nature of the Libertarian Party platform and of the mindset of it's followers. I've been doing some research in an attempt to understand the Libertarian movement in this country. The following paragraph,I believe,gets directly to the crux of the issue. This excerpt from 'THE LIBERTARIAN MOVEMENT IN AMERICA' by George Friedman and Gary L. McDowell-1983 explains it best IMO:

"In an age increasingly unsure of its politics, in which party affiliation is at best tenuous, the libertarians have become the party for all reasons. A brief sample of the average libertarian platform reveals, as one observer noted, a tendency to swing so quickly from right to left "that it will give you a nosebleed." For example, the party routinely argues for the abolition of (among other things): import quotas; the FBI and the CIA; anti-gun laws; antitrust laws; anti-drab laws; anti-prostitution laws; child labor laws; anti-pornography laws; government poverty programs; public schools; police; no-fault insurance; busing; the draft ("conscription is slavery"); forced jury duty; the postal service; and social security (a "fraudulent, virtually bankrupt, and increasingly oppressive system"). In short, libertarians tend to oppose all the things governments have traditionally done. The concrete advantage of this ideological breadth has been to increase the party's appeal in recent years. The spectrum, ranging as it does from the far left to the extreme right, has been sufficient to draw adherents from radical, liberal, and conservative ranks; disgruntled Republicans (the party was, in fact, founded by "disaffected Republicans unhappy with Nixon") 6 and bitter Democrats seem to mix easily with socialists and anarchists of nearly every stripe— from former members of Students for a Democratic Society to former members of Young Americans for Freedom."


http://www.potowmack.org/libmovam.html
 
Yeah, there are a quite a few Libertarian ideas I could live with and there are many I think are just bonkers. One reason why I'd think long and hard before joining ranks.

On the other hand, I'm becoming increasingly unsettled with the Republican party. Yesterday I downloaded Virginia's "party plan" (yes, that is what they call it). It is totally focused on the structure for electing individuals to office.

In all my years, no party official has ever asked "What do you think?".

I know I'm not any big shot. I'm not connected. I'm not wealthy. I'm not important. I'm a nobody. But as Jimmy Stewart said in "It's a Wonderful Life." (paraphrased) "It's the riff-raff in this town that does most of the living and dying."

I'd also like to think I have something worthwhile to add to the conversation from time to time. Trouble is, I'm excluded from those conversations. I'm sure I'm not alone.
 
Amazing.. A 1983 anti-libertarian excerpt from two Neocons. Who would of thunk it?

More Pearls of wisdom coming from mr Friedman.

"The most obvious justification would be to claim that Iran is about to construct a nuclear device. Whether or not this is true would be Immaterial First, no one would be in a position to challenge the claim, and, second, Obama’s credibility in making the assertion would be much greater than George W. Bush’s, given that Obama does not have the 2003 weapons-of-mass-destruction debacle to deal with and has the advantage of not having made such a claim before. Coming from Obama, the claim would confirm the views of the Republicans, while the Democrats would be hard-pressed to challenge him. In the face of this assertion, Obama would be forced to take action. He could appear reluctant to his base, decisive to the rest. The Republicans could not easily attack him. Nor would the claim be a lie. Defining what it means to almost possess nuclear weapons is nearly a metaphysical discussion. It requires merely a shift in definitions and assumptions. This is a cynical scenario, but it can be aligned with reasonable "

Looks like once again a loud mouthed anti-libertarian proves to be whacked out Neocon...
 
Seeknufind,your views and opinions of the Libertarian Party and the Republican Party,as you've expressed them above,are very close to my own.
I'm wondering though about your last paragraph: "I'd also like to think I have something worthwhile to add to the conversation from time to time. Trouble is, I'm excluded from those conversations. I'm sure I'm not alone."
Are you expressing your perception of the Republican Party leadership "excluding you from those conversations" or members of this Board. I believe your posts show that you possess a keen insight into American politics. I,for one,enjoy reading your posts and agree with your opinions much of the time. So,if by chance,you feel you are being excluded from the conversations here on the PM Board,please don't include me in the group of offenders.
 
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