The Proper Way To Choke Your Chicken

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I remember being extremely young and watching my great grandfather wring the neck of chickens for Sunday dinner. He would grab the neck, swing the chicken around and pop it's head off like cracking a whip. I remember running in abject fear as the chicken hit the ground running, headless. Of course he encouraged that while laughing, telling me it was after me. Hey, dead is dead, no matter how you accomplish it.

Groups push for more humane slaughter of chickens
Associated Press
By FREDERIC J. FROMMER March 29, 2014 11:28 AM

WASHINGTON (AP) — Two animal welfare groups and dozens of lawmakers are urging the Obama administration to improve humane treatment of poultry at slaughterhouses, citing statistics that show hundreds of thousands of chickens being accidentally dropped alive into scalding tanks every year.

The Animal Welfare Institute and Farm Sanctuary have petitioned the Department of Agriculture's Food Safety Inspection Service to strengthen humane treatment regulations, by, among other things, banning live birds from the scalding tanks. When things go according to plan, birds are already dead by the time they're dropped into the tank, but a small percentage miss the automatic knife that is supposed to slit their necks and wind up dying in the tank.

The Food Safety Inspection Service, known as FSIS, and the National Chicken Council, a trade association, stressed that the number of birds who die that way represents a tiny fraction of the billions of chickens that are slaughtered every year.

Chicken production is big in much of the South. Georgia, Arkansas, Alabama, North Carolina and Mississippi are the top five states for chicken meat production.

Earlier this month, 68 House members urged Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack to scrap a proposed poultry inspection rule that would speed up cleaning and inspecting bird carcasses, known as evisceration. The lawmakers said in their letter to Vilsack that would result in more birds missing backup slaughter devices and entering the scalding tank alive. The House members also objected to the rule's reduction of 500 to 800 inspector positions.

FSIS Deputy Administrator Phil Derfler said that the Agriculture Department "is using the full extent of its legal authority to protect chickens from inhumane conditions because poorly treated birds can present a food safety concern, and it is ethically appropriate for us to do so."

He said that those efforts led to an all-time low of chickens killed by other than humane methods of .008 percent last year.

"Our goal is always to drive that number as close to zero as possible, and our proposal to modernize poultry slaughter inspection would help do that," Derfler said, by better positioning inspectors to ensure humane treatment of poultry.

Birds that die by means other than slaughter are called "cadavers" and not allowed to enter the food supply. Last year, FSIS records show, there were roughly 680,000 cadavers, down from around 730,000 the year before. FSIS officials say the majority of cadavers are birds that have been dropped into scalding tanks alive.

"Dying other than by slaughter causes tremendous suffering to how ever many birds are subjected to this treatment," said Dena M. Jones, the Animal Welfare Institute's farm animal program manager.

Tom Super, a spokesman for the National Chicken Council, said there's an economic — as well as ethical — incentive to reduce the number of cadavers. He said that when birds miss the automatic knife, an employee is used as backup to keep live birds out of the scalder.

Rep. James Moran, a Virginia Democrat who co-chairs the Congressional Animal Protection Caucus, said he thought the number of chickens "boiled alive" in the U.S. was significant.

"You either feel for other living species, or you don't," said Moran, who signed the letter to Vilsack. "And a lot of people simply don't."

Virginia is 12th in the nation, according to the National Chicken Council.

The animal welfare groups' petition also says that birds aren't always properly stunned, which is supposed to make them insensible to pain before slaughter; and that many birds suffer broken or dislocated bones when they are shackled for slaughter.

Super said that his group issued new guidelines last month requiring stunning to be more effective, with a goal of at least 99 percent of birds effectively stunned and insensible to pain, and corrective action required when it falls below 98 percent. And he said companies must have a monitoring program for wing and leg injuries, and retraining of employees when standards are exceeded.

Derfler, of the FSIS, said the agency works under existing law to ensure humane treatment of chickens, relying on the Poultry Products Inspection Act, which condemns adulterated products, including birds that die by means other than slaughter.

"Under our regulations, right now, if live birds go into the scald tank, we do think that's a prohibited act, under the Poultry Products Inspection Act," Derfler said. "And we'd take action, because the animals would be dying other than by slaughter — they'd be drowning, and not slaughtered in a humane way."

Temple Grandin, a noted professor with autism whose life's work understanding livestock was the subject of an HBO movie, said birds entering the scalder alive used to be a bigger problem than it is today.

"You shouldn't have live birds going in the scalder," she said. "You've got really good system — you're not going to have live birds going in the scalder."

http://news.yahoo.com/groups-push-more-humane-slaughter-chickens-152553069.html
 
I am 100% against PETA and animal rights groups in general,their agenda has nothing to do with common sense animal husbandry or pet ownership.

That said I am even more opposed to cruelty to animals and have been all my life, if a guy couldn't shoot and kill cleanly and promptly I won't hunt with them.

PETA is going to use everything they can get their hands on, the trick is not to give them anything like this.

My wife has testified as a bird veterinarian several times against PETA in senate and house hearings.

When their cage size requirements threatened the California egg industry their agenda was revealed in a different way. The cage size requirement was meant to make chicken ranchers leave the state. It was assumed by PETA that if they were forced to spend millions in new cages that they'd pack it up and leave rather than spend the money on new infrastructure.

Jeanne was pleasantly surprised to see the big ranchers simply suck it up and make costly modifications to their cage sizes. So PETA sees them setting up cages to the required size and they scream, wait a minute. The industry says we are giving the chickens the cages you wanted, what's the problem? They respond that it wasn't really anything to do with cage size, we don't want egg laying production at all, we think the whole concept is cruel. So they fought a chickenchit battle on false premises.
 
Anyone who has not spent time raising livestock should make no decisions concerning something they know nothing about. Most farmers, not corporations, farmers know what to do, or they will have a town job pretty quick.
The time the chicken truck fell through the bridge when I was a boy was pretty bad though. I got some nice chicken crates out of the creek that summer though.
 
I've been a butcher for 18 years. I've heard a lot of things from different people over the years. One lady told me I should play classical music on the kill floor, so the animals would be more relaxed...........
 
My Granny was a chicken killer extraordinaire. Her method: put her foot on their feet, pull on the head to stretch their neck out, and then cut the head off with her butcher knife. I doubt they suffered much, and they definitely were not still alive when they hit the scalding tub.
 
My Granny's chickens run lose on the farm and were sort of wild I guess you would say. When I was just a little boy she had a little .22 that shot what she called spats, they were like a weak short. She would have me shoot the chicken in the head. That was pretty tough ,chickens don't hold still very good.
 
Quote:Tom Super, a spokesman for the National Chicken Council, said there's an economic — as well as ethical — incentive to reduce the number of cadavers. He said that when birds miss the automatic knife, an employee is used as backup to keep live birds out of the scalder.


What if the employee misses the automatic knives, who's gonna keep him out the scalder???


Somehow all of this story just isn't quite making sense... If they're stunning them so they don't feel any pain, how can they feel pain when they hit the scalder?

And, I'm still lost on the line up there about breaking bones when they hang them. My guess would be, they are stunned, they are hung, they hit the automatic knives, they are scalded. In that order. Wherein again, they are stunned so they don't feel any pain, so how can they tell if their leg breaks? Obviously written by someone that don't have a clue about the chicken slaughtering business, and apparently suffering from a lack of common sense.
 
Being born and raised on a farm I am not clueless about things that can happen that a person would rather not have happened to animals. We did our own butchering, beef and hogs, chickens anytime. We were as humane as we could be, but I can't say I enjoyed some aspects of the butchering season. If a being from another planet looked at humans they might think we are a barbaric species. But people have to eat. Man can not live on grass. If then you look at nature, we don't look so bad.
 
If anyone had had to have hospitalized surgery or an amputation, I would be surprised if they actually felt the scalpel or bone saw....That's the reason for the anesthesia...You may feel the pain or discomfort following the procedure, but not during the actual process...I doubt that any animal is any different if knocked unconscious...
 
I am hard to put to sleep and locals don't work well at all with the usuall stuff they use. I watched the TV during a heart procedure and asked the Dr questions. I thought that was normal. He told my wife that he gave me enough stuff to knock out a horse. However, they do have some stuff that comes in a little bitty syringe that takes about half a second to knock me out for hours. Twice they have started cutting on me when I was wide awake and not numbed at all. Once the Dr. made a cut about an inch long and my butt rose off the table and I told him I was not numb. He turned to his nurse and said he must be numb, and cut me another inch. That time I used words he could understand. Then the fellow with the little bitty syringe moved his thumb on the plunger and I was gone for a while.
 
I had a bladder probe once, you know the one where they run this wire up your penis, in order to see what your bladder looks like. They gave me a shot and said I wouldn't feel a thing.....wrong!! The doctor started pushing that thing in me, and I said to him that I thought I wasn't supposed to be feeling anything. He said told me that was right, and then I almost jumped off that table. I felt the entire procedure, and didn't get totally relaxed until after it was over and on my way home. Normally, I'm out like a light when that good stuff in that little syringe hits my bloodstream.
 


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