Thermion XM30

Str8Shooter

Str8Shooter

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I'm planning on upgrading my gear from the Photon to some better NV or Thermal equipment and I'm looking for advice. I currently have a Helion XP28 for scanning and I'm debating on going with something like the HTRN - MX160 mounted behind a day scope or possibly a Thermion XM30. I know the FOV is tighter than the XP series but I'm thinking that since I have the Helion XP28 to scan with, the tighter FOV on my shooting rig shouldn't be a very big issue. My typical shot ranges from 50 - 200 yds. Any advice or suggestions on other equipment options would be appreciated.
 
Originally Posted By: Str8ShooterI'm planning on upgrading my gear from the Photon to some better NV or Thermal equipment and I'm looking for advice. I currently have a Helion XP28 for scanning and I'm debating on going with something like the HTRN - MX160 mounted behind a day scope or possibly a Thermion XM30. I know the FOV is tighter than the XP series but I'm thinking that since I have the Helion XP28 to scan with, the tighter FOV on my shooting rig shouldn't be a very big issue. My typical shot ranges from 50 - 200 yds. Any advice or suggestions on other equipment options would be appreciated. If considering a clip on, you may want to consider the HOGSTER . The FOV will be determined by your glass scope.
 
Kirsch, that definitely looks interesting but i think that I’m swaying more towards a dedicated scope setup. Would the XM30 have a FOV similar to the FLIR that you’re shooting? I calculate it to be about 42 ft at 100 yds.
 
Originally Posted By: Str8ShooterKirsch, that definitely looks interesting but i think that I’m swaying more towards a dedicated scope setup. Would the XM30 have a FOV similar to the FLIR that you’re shooting? I calculate it to be about 42 ft at 100 yds. The XM30 will have a larger FOV, and less base magnification than the PTS536 as it will also in comparison to the XM38 and the XM50. The reason is the smaller objective. The XM30 has a 24mm objective while the PTS5356 has a 50mm objective. The bigger objective leads to a bigger (longer) focal length, which leads to increased base magnification, and less FOV.

The drawback in comparison is I would anticipate the FLIR 50mm lens will do a lot better in high humidity but without having them side by side on the same night, I can't say for sure.
 
Kirsch, thanks for the reply... so based on the specs, do you think it would make for a decent shooting system provided that the user has a quality scanner with a wide FOV, like the Helion XP28?
 
It is always hard to recommend something you haven't used. I think it will be a decent thermal, but I haven't even heard of any dealers receiving them yet. As I stated, it all comes down to humidity. If you like the Thermion (more traditional) look and want the features of recording, and don't want to move up to the 640x480, it should be a decent entry level scope. At this price range, the only other option from Pulsar will be the Core RXQ30. The core is not going to have recording or streamvision. It is a 17 micron (Core) vs 12 micron (Thermion), so you get a bigger field of view and less base mag with the Core with the same lens. At the current time, for new, the Thermion XM30 is the next price point available. For coyote hunters who want less base mag, would select the XM30 or move up to the XP line.
 
At present time it appears the xm30 being the most affordable of the new Thermions, is also the last to be offered to the customers. There has been nothing posted on the xm30 as of yet !
 
Originally Posted By: KirschIt is always hard to recommend something you haven't used. I think it will be a decent thermal, but I haven't even heard of any dealers receiving them yet. As I stated, it all comes down to humidity. If you like the Thermion (more traditional) look and want the features of recording, and don't want to move up to the 640x480, it should be a decent entry level scope. At this price range, the only other option from Pulsar will be the Core RXQ30. The core is not going to have recording or streamvision. It is a 17 micron (Core) vs 12 micron (Thermion), so you get a bigger field of view and less base mag with the Core with the same lens. At the current time, for new, the Thermion XM30 is the next price point available. For coyote hunters who want less base mag, would select the XM30 or move up to the XP line.


I appreciate the feedback... looks like I'll have to wait a bit and hopefully more info on the XM30 will come out. Meanwhile I'll keep researching and learning. This stuff can get pretty complex!
 
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