time for a new shotgun

yotestomper

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I have had my mossberg 500 for 20 plus years and she is just about wore out.It has always been my all around shotgun. my question is this, what barrel length do I choose. I have always used a 28" barrel. I would like to go shorter, just not sure of any effect on distance. anyone who can offer up some info would be appreciated
 
No effect on distance. Patterns are generated by the first 2-4" and the choke. It's not really like a rifle where you get speed with length. I like 24s for turkey or predator. (21" too!)

I like the tried and true 870. They are a 'kit' gun with alot of options available. I wouldn't necessarily NOT suggest the express models, but they are not my first choice. The sps turkey is a cool model with a nice stock and fiber optics.
 
Originally Posted By: yotestomperI have had my mossberg 500 for 20 plus years and she is just about wore out.It has always been my all around shotgun. my question is this, what barrel length do I choose. I have always used a 28" barrel. I would like to go shorter, just not sure of any effect on distance. anyone who can offer up some info would be appreciated

A shorter barrel will be easier to move around through the thicker woods & brush. I have heard good things about Pure Gold chokes.... customer satisfaction is their goal no matter what. I have a PG .696 that I need to pattern with my 870sm & #2 Hevishot.... it has a 23" barrel also.

If your interested, I have this in the classifeids section:

11-87sm Predator/Turkey
 
Yotestomper, this is off Nitro's site;

This is info from Nitro Shell Company which is arguably the best turkey shell out there. They do more real life testing than any other folks I know. I've never heard of anyone not having great results when choke/load recomendations are used.

Today the modern turkey guns are more advanced than they once were. New technology has wiped the old theory (big shot, open choke), out of existence. Nitro Company's research and development department has done extensive testing on how to get the maximum performance out of all guns. Here are our findings that we feel will give the turkey hunter the edge on the elusive gobbler.
The modern turkey hunter sacrifices pattern performance and velocity for maneuverability of a short 21" barrel. A gun with a 26" barrel will give you higher velocity and better patterns. For every inch up to 26", you gain 7 1/2 to 15 feet per second in velocity, depending upon the gun. A 26" barrel will give you 10 to 15 percent better patterns than a short barrel with the same choke constriction.The early turkey guns were furnished with fixed chokes and did not have the option of screw in chokes as we have today. Fixed chokes and sleeves are things of the past, since advanced technology has made these obsolete. Screw in chokes give the turkey hunters many options of diameter size constrictions. What works in one gun might not work in another, it is also true to say that what works in one barrel, might not work in another. In the past, the theory claimed open chokes for big shot. Choke constriction does not always work that way. If you have access to many different chokes and want to shoot #4 shot, they might shoot the best out of a real tight choke or they might shoot best out of a slightly open turkey choke. The only way to find what choke works best with your shot size, is through testing. As you can see, there are many advantages of having a screw in choke. Due to the harmonics (vibration) in the barrel, you do not know if your barrel is going to like a ported or non-ported choke. Whichever one works to give you the maximum pattern, is the one for you. Ported chokes are highly recommended if they work in your barrel. Modern choke tubes are also ported as a wad stripper, they keep the jump of the muzzle down, and reduce recoil.


The muzzle velocity of the ammunition you decide to use, must be at least 1,100 fps (feet per second) to kill a turkey at 40 yards with a small shot size. To penetrate the vitals of a turkey head and neck, the ammunition must hit with at least 1.8 foot pounds of energy. It is very important to know the length of the test barrels used to test velocities of the ammunition you select. If ammunition velocity is tested out of a 30" barrel (as most manufacturers use), you would be very disappointed to know that you will not be getting their advertised velocity from a 21" barrel. If you have access to a chronograph, which measure feet per second velocities, you should test your ammunition to make sure you are shooting over 1,100 fps. Nitro Company tests all ammunition out of 21" & 24" test barrels (depending on the gauge of the gun) so that you will be getting actual velocities. We also temperature rate our shells for the maximum performance you will get at those temperatures. Cold weather can hinder patterns drastically if loads are not chosen carefully and tested in colder weather conditions.

Another important factor of your shotgun is your sights. Make sure you shoot your gun and that it is shooting point of aim. If your shotgun is shooting off, a set of rifle sights or scope could solve the problem, this way you can adjust it to the point of aim. Many birds are missed because the hunter does not see where his point of impact of the shotgun is shooting. Another thing is that you should make sure that your gun fits you, if you have to shorten or lengthen the stock, then do so. A shotgun should pull up with no interference from your arm, clothing, etc. Another reason turkeys are missed is because when you are shooting and patterning the gun on the range you are holding it tight and into your shoulder. When you call in a gobbler, your relaxed and you hold the gun loose. This will make you shoot high and possibly shoot over your gobbler. For more info and free catalog, contact Nitro Company, 7560 Newkirk Road, Mountain Grove, MO 65711 * 417-746-4600.
 
Although it would be cheaper to get the express and just buy the stock and fiber optics. sps and the express have the same guts.
 
yotestomper,
If you are completely used to and satisfied with the Mossberg shotguns, then I see no reason not to buy another one. You are used to it and the operation is second nature for you. You won't have to learn a new safety or manual of arms, ect. Unless you just want a change because you've shot the same gun for 20 years, then I'd buy a new updated camo Mossberg with about a 24" – 26” barrel and fiber optic bead/sights. Mossberg builds a decent shotgun and is a good value in the market.
 
thanks for the info-- the mossberg has been a great shotgun. I have zero complaints-- I loved my 870 just never liked the safety.. I will most likely buy another mossberg. Just haven't bought a new shotgun in years and was curious how the 22-24 barrels performed. I do like the way they feel.
 
Originally Posted By: GCyotestomper,
If you are completely used to and satisfied with the Mossberg shotguns, then I see no reason not to buy another one. You are used to it and the operation is second nature for you. You won't have to learn a new safety or manual of arms, ect. Unless you just want a change because you've shot the same gun for 20 years, then I'd buy a new updated camo Mossberg with about a 24" – 26” barrel and fiber optic bead/sights. Mossberg builds a decent shotgun and is a good value in the market.


I agree! Unless you don't like the pump and wanted a semi I'd get the same gun.

You don't say what you want to do with this gun. If it is still going to be your all around shotgun or you will be doing alot of wingshooting then stick with that 28" BBL! A shorter barrel will be a new sight picture and not swing as smooth. However, if you are coyote hunting and turkey hunting mostly then one of the shorter barrel models would be more handy especialy with an extended tube. You already have a 28" BBL you could slap on the new gun for wingshooting. Then if you buy a new one with shorter barrel you can have both. Keep the old gun for backup.
 
for the last few years it has been my predator shotgun only. gave up bird hunting years ago. I will most likely go semi-auto this go around.
 
I don't know your price range, but a Maxus in brush camo is hard to beat for a semi-auto. Easy to field strip with the speed lock forearm and can rly burn some shells, plus you don't even feel recoil. Come to think of it though, does anyone feel recoil when you're shooting at a critter
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