Two stage trigger for coyote rifle

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I have a semi custom ar15 that was built to try to get long range accuracy. I have a JP enterprises lower and JP trigger. The pull is 3# very crisp and quite nice. I shot it today for the first time and really liked it. My bro in law bought up a off the shelf AR and had it out for the first time as well. at the end of the day he decided he wants a trigger like my JP.
This brings me to my question. Are 2 stage triggers good for hunting. I shoot quite a bit of bench rest .22 and I have a very nice KIDD 2 stage trigger that I absolutely love and I'm efficient with it on the bench but have never hunted with it. If I recall correctly my .22 trigger is 2#_2# pull. My JP trigger is 3# single stage and feels great but I kinda feel like I would like a 2 stage trigger. Defiantly for target but curious if anyone uses them for hunting. Because mows the time since I could sell my JP to my bro and help offset the cost.
 
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I better give credit where credit is due. Thanks a lot EasternPredHunter for the super sweet AR upper that I bought from the PM classifieds. And slickerthansnot for the very nice Burris optic that I also got in the classifieds.
And most of all. Pred master for this site.
And everyone one here answering questions and sharing info and stories
 
Sorry guys. I worked the search wrong the first time. Tried again and found same q several times. I will research and possibly find answers so only reply if you are feelin "typee". Or if you would like to share real world experiences
 
I hope everyone is enjoying my "solo thread". Here's my question AFTER researching and not finding suitable answer due to most of the info I found on the web was more about 3gun stuff.
I want to get a Geissele 2stage trigger and have it narrowed to
SD-c (2.5# 1st stage 2.0# 2nd).
or SD-e. 2.3# 1st. 1.2# 2nd
Anybody use these??
 
I hunted with a Geissele for a season. Despite the price tag, it was absolutely no better than a RRA 2 stage national match trigger.

They are both good triggers no doubt, but the Geissele is, IMO, not worth the extra money.

If you moly coat your trigger pins, the RRA 2 stage is pretty Darn awesome.

Hunting with a 2 stage trigger is nice really, because you can take up the first stage but also release it if the critter changes position. I've always felt like they were pretty forgiving.

Don't worry about the lack of replies.... Happens to me a lot.
 
Just about any stock AR trigger leaves a lot to be desired, for the average hunter. Most any aftermarket trigger is a great improvement. I have a few, Jewel, Timney, NM-RRA. I'm very content with the 3# Timney, but about any would be a great improvement.

I do know guys who use a trigger I would never want, they get used to it and do fine. That 'personal preference' factor comes into play.
 
I have had several two stage triggers and they work fine. There is a slight mental moment when punching paper.
For hunting I prefer a super clean break 2 lb single stage. No thinking about stages I know when its time to touch off.
 
I like a two stage trigger. Like stated above it will allow you to take up the slack and know where your touch off is.
 
Please explain to me which Geissele trigger you were using. Geissele has more than one trigger on the market. Some are better than others.

They probably have a web site where you can look up the different types of trigger. I've read that some are much better than the others for different types of shooting styles. 3 gun Geissele triggers vs. some of their entry level Geissele trigger.



Originally Posted By: CZ527I hunted with a Geissele for a season. Despite the price tag, it was absolutely no better than a RRA 2 stage national match trigger.

They are both good triggers no doubt, but the Geissele is, IMO, not worth the extra money.

If you moly coat your trigger pins, the RRA 2 stage is pretty Darn awesome.

Hunting with a 2 stage trigger is nice really, because you can take up the first stage but also release it if the critter changes position. I've always felt like they were pretty forgiving.

Don't worry about the lack of replies.... Happens to me a lot.

 

My Dtech 6x45 has a Rock River two-stage trigger that Mike Milli worked over for me. It's really nice. The second stage is very light and great for serious target shooting or at stationary targets, but a bit too easy in many hunting situations, as well as having to adjust to the travel in the first stage.

My first coyote with the rifle / trigger just about ended without success. The rifle was new and I wasn't used to the trigger. When the coyote ran up to about 40 yards and stopped, and as I was lowering the rifle into place, I let the round off too quickly, shooting over it. It hauled freight but I did manage to get it on the run with a second shot at about 100 yards. As I got more adjusted to the two-stage, I began to drop several more coyotes with the first shot.

I am more comfortable with the trigger now and do like it, but I guess for calling coyotes, I prefer a single stage. I have a Chip McCormick in my Bushmaster and while it's not quite as light a pull as the two-stage, it still does pretty good job.

 
I like a single stage. If I have to think about when the rifle is going to go off the critter I'm about to kill has just enough time to think about taking another step or turning to run. When its go time I only want that trigger to make one movement...straight back. Anything extra is room for error. For shooting paper I wouldn't mind a two stage. Paper doesn't go anywhere.
 
Coyotehunter_,

It was the standards SSA. Pretty much entry level, but by all means not worth 2.5 times what the RRA NM was going for at the time ($85). It came standard in the Larue I bought (which is another thing that I quickly ditched, lol.)

Of course the Geissele is still the same price, and the RRA has crept up the last few years.
 
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Okrattler. I get what you are saying and that was what made me hesitate on 2 stage but it seems like no matter what trigger you are using you need to apply slight pressure until you are ready to fire then you break the trigger to make the shot. With a 2 stage you just have a distinct feeling of pressure take up then a crisp break. My only concern is that the light pull will be enough for shooting with gloves.
 
I have a Jewell in my AR. It's great for shooting at a target and for hunting I don't even notice it's a 2 stage. I just pull the trigger like I would with any other trigger in one motion.
 
I went from a Timney single stage to a Geissele two stage and have never regretted the decision. I've hunted with the SSA-E and the Hispeed versions in match and DMR. I also recently bought an AR Gold trigger to try out from recommendations made here. The AR gold is more like a single stage since the first stage is so light. I brought it out and took my first coyote with it the other day and it felt great. If I can bring it down in weight a bit more it will be perfect.

I like them all, but my preference is between the DMR and the AR gold at this point. The light pull weight of the second stage of the Hispeed match requires a bit of concentration in order to not pull right through it in a hunting situation.

 
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I have RR NM2stage triggers in all of my ar's. I have added the JP springs to them. I really like that they all fell close to the same. The only thing is that when I go from shooting bolt guns to shooting my ar's there is some getting use to. If I am shooting for load development the trigger that came with my predator pursuit is the smoothest 2stage that I have. Like others have said I like it that you can take up the slack when prepping for the shot and if your prey moves on you can let the take up back off. I also feel that it is better when you have heavy gloves on.
 
I second the two stage. I have a few Remy's with Timney's and a couple Vanguard S2's stage 2 and an AR-15 with a Geissele. I love both types, but I am finding myself REALLY liking the two stage triggers.
 


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