Use of Cover Scent(Urine)

cpd1501

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Just wanted some opinions on cover scents. Where I hunt in Ohio the coyotes come in much closer than out west(I hunt Nebraska also). I use dead down wind soap, unscented deodorant, and wash hunting clothes with cover scent. My question comes with the use of urine. I spray coon urine at stands before calling. I recently read an article praising the use of mixing different urines to confuse the coyote. I've also heard that coyote urine alone is very effective. I also have looked into a company that offers some sort of urine scented candles, which sounds sort of wierd but if it works oh well. What is everyone using effectively?
 
I live in the West and it's pretty open country here where I hunt. Deep canyons and some broken prairie country on top. I've not ever sprayed urine on me or anything else while coyote hunting in the near 50 years I've been doing it. Most calling stands never last for more than 15 minutes. Lots of coyotes killed without having to do the sprinkle the pee thing.

I darn near choked when I got down to your last sentence, read it as urine scented candies, whew. How are you doing without the urine thing?

Anyway I'm probably not much help as that's probably a lot tighter calling out there where you live.

This is the kind of country I hunt.

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I have to laugh because many of my friends use all types of cover scents. I take more game than they do and i smoke. I just keep the wind in my face and sun to my back.
 
Candles not candy:) Mastins coyote urine candles, thats the company that sells the things. Seems like a strange idea. I too try and keep the wind blowing at my face or a cross wind. I've had many setups where the wind either changed direction during the stand or swirls a bit causing me problems. There is so much talk about cover scents that to be quite honest I'm not sure what's real and whats just marketing b.s. I'd like to be able to cut through all the gimmicks coming out on the predator market these days and get right to the products that will make me more successful.
 
The use of urine hasn't helped me /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif. I've peed on myself a few times with limited success while calling. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
 
I think it doesnt hurt a thing at all! Im going to try yote urine and rabitt this year . I spray deer piss on my boots when deer hunting and had does walk right up to my stand, im not saying yotes will do that by no means, but what the heck try it just for the fun of it! I have come up with a idea for this year and if it works I will let you know?
 
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I just keep the wind in my face and sun to my back.




+1, if they get downwind they will smell you. There is a lot of discussion about "misting" and "cover scents" and a search would turn up enough cussin' and discussin' about these two topics to keep you busy until the snow flies. I used to use a cover scent years back as a confidence thing, but I gave it up. IMHO, these is just no point in it... if they get downwind, they are gonna smell ya - period.
 
I use them but only as a added help to maybe confuse the critter for a sec or 2. Remember when you are calling a critter be it a buck or yote and it is comin looking for you. it is on it highest alert. nothing is seconded guessed. when they are at easy they will be a little slower in the head LOL I use the cover to make them think twice for hopefully that sec to long.
 
My thought is I don't want them going downwind of the caller, and if they do, I want a gun in that position so they circle right into it with their attention locked on the source of the sound before they can scent that downwind gunner. I try to keep them coming hot and straight to the source of the sound using their ears and straining their eyes looking for the critter in distress. If I let them resort to their nose, I’ll lose the game. The only way I can win that situation is with a gun far enough below me as a hand caller, or my e-call, that the downwind guy gets a shot as the coyote swings wide downwind to catch the scent. Here in the rough country of the Ozarks the timber, brush, and steep up/down terrain allows a responding critter to sometimes be within 100 yards and be out of sight. Nobody I know of claims the misting mix to be an attractant, only a confidence/cover scent, to confuse and maybe hold the coyote for the extra second or two as you state. Here if they are 100 yards away and stand there to sort things out, they’ll be out of sight and I’ll never get a shot anyway. I’d much rather manipulate my calling tactics to avoid that situation.
 
Gc I agree with you 100 % but the first thing you will say to me when you come to the state of south jersey is My God do you have a hill? If it was not for the thick trees and briars you could see 6 miles LOL. we are flat flat and flatter then thick thick and thicker LOL we can't stop them from circling down wind LOL Now if I go to the state of North Jersey I get a nose bleed LOL and that country is alittle more controlable LOL

I spray tc or predator / deer on my boots always then mist one of those also and use a cover like forest and fields. It has never hurt me but gave me a sec longer to miss LOL but if they get down wind it sure is fun!!!!!!!

Fox are dumb for a few secs most of the time.
 
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I am new and my question is when I place my e-caller I open a small bottle with a wick in it filled with fox urine and set it next to the caller then I back off to the spot I want to sit. In your opinions can they smell my trail from the caller to my stand downwind. I usually try and setup with a cross wind or wind in my face so that they have to come in between myself and the caller or cross fox urine scent on a cross wind before they get to my scent stream.
 
Yes they can smell your trail, and, they can smell where you handled the caller and set it up. I've seen it, been burned by it, and now will ALWAYS try to shoot the coyote BEFORE he gets to the caller. Several times before I figured this out I had coyotes run to the caller and decoy with mouths ready to chomp down on my deke when they acted as if they had run into an invisible wall when they got a whiff of my scent. Their reaction was as if someone had swatted them in the face with a tennis racket when they smelled the human odor on the equipment. I used to spritz some coon or fox cover scent around the set and on my back trail. Didn’t seem to matter one bit, the coyotes still made me in about a half second when they got close to the gear. I've watched coyotes from a treestand while bow hunting deer cross my backtrack; there is no mistaking when they hit your scent trail. Some of those coyotes have turned and trotted off looking around wildly as they go, others get sneaky and slink away through the brush like a ghost.

Years back while deer hunting during the firearms season I was sitting out on a point that watched a big flat white oak bottom with a creek that ran down the middle of it. The wind had shifted and was blowing at my back now instead of my face. However, I was real certain any critter would have to get out in the middle of the oak flat before it could catch the scent cone and by the time it did I could have a decent shot. I caught movement coming from my left down the holler. It was a coyote following the creek bank. I watched it with interest to see where it would smell me. Just as I thought the coyote got darn near straight in front of me before it caught my scent. The reaction wasn’t something I expected though… That coyote was just ambling along, nosing around, when suddenly it threw its nose up and for about a second stopped still. Then it jumped behind a large log that was lying along the creek bank and lay flat. From my elevated position I could still see it lying tight behind the log. That old coyote eased its eyes just over the log and looked right at me. It was still as a stone for about thirty seconds, then it turned around very carefully and using the log as cover slipped down into the creek bank and reversed itself traveling back the way it came from under the overhanging bank of the creek. That was a sly coyote for sure and a great example of how crafty they can be. A doe came by later and when she hit my scent she flagged and loped on in the direction she was headed, crossing the scent trail. A small buck came by about five minutes later and showed no visible reaction to my scent as he trailed the doe. An old woods wise whitetail doe is pretty slick too. Bucks in the rut much less so… which is off topic, sorry for the ramble.
 
I'm with Bob and GC on this one.

I've tried cover scents,misting, and scent elimination sprays. The only thing I've found to work at all is scent elimination. The enzymes do seem to work especially on deer. Coyotes can smell you regardless! The only advantage to scenting might be with a younger coyote or one that is very hungry... then you might get a few extra seconds to make your shot. I am positive a coyote smells the cover scent, the elimination sprays and is maybe(remember, MAYBE)momentarily confused by why a human smells like fox urine...

Play the wind and your percentages will go way up. The only way to fool an old coyote is if he can't see, hear, or smell you!

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