Using hand calls

Rich Cronk

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When a person decides to use mouth blown calls for all of his critter calling, I believe that this person has taken on a very tough challenge. To me there is nothing quite as satisfying as fooling the eyes, ears and nose of the elusive coyote. I would like to hear some of the special techniques that some of you guys employ when calling predators with mouth blown calls. The precautions you take in approaching the calling stand, such as wind direction, what you look for when choosing a good setup location and etc. How long do you wait in silence before blowing your call, do you start out by blowing softly, how often do you change sounds during one stand. I would like to see short stories that describe a successful hunt, and even a few photos of the predators you take. Go ahead and tell us about that coyote you missed at ten feet also. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
Great idea Rich!
I'm sure that alot of guys don't really give it a second thought, but for someone like me just starting out huntings yotes this could be very helpful.
I look forward to reading and puting into use any helpful tactics that you could offer dealing with hand calls.

Micah
 
Well, I'm certainly not a noteable caller but I do get a poke at a song dog I've called every now and then so here is what I do...

I select a location where I can see a lot of country to watch for coyotes that are responding to my calling. Usually, this is higher ground (within shooting range) than surrounding country. One time a buddy and I set up on the edge of a big canyon and the sage was about 5' tall. we weren't very far apart but couldn't see each other. My buddy was watching two dogs working their way toward us coming off of a pretty good slope across the canyon when he "felt" something watching him. Yup, it was a coyote not 6' from his feet. The coyote dove over the edge of the canyon and started to run down toward the bottom which was about 100 yards away from us. Buddy hollered at me to take the one in the bottom which I did. He shot at the two that were apporaching down the slope and got one of them. We both tried to get the other but it got away. We both were using 223s, mine a Sako Vixen, his a Kimber.

I pass up favorite calling spots if the wind isn't right. But I look for the wind to be in my face or from the side.

I try to approach the spot to call from without showing myself to the country I will be calling toward. In other words I try to sneak over the "rim" or into the shooting location as close to where I want to call from as possible. This is where some scouting comes in handy.

Once I get over the "rim" I try to sit BEHIND, not in front, of some type of bush or sagebrush to breakup my outline.

I then determine how I want to rest my rifle while calling. On my lap? Leaning against the bush? How will it be handiest for me to put into use in this calling situation.

I pull out my compact binocs and scour the country side to see if there is any action going on out there. Depending on how much of a vista you have this might take 10 minutes or so. This time is well spent letting things get back to normal.

My very first calling sequence is pretty muffled and soft. I remember one set where I used my dogs squeeky toy as a first call and brought in two coyotes within a minute. I believe you can scare the wits out of them if you try to bugle them in from the next county with your first go.

I will blow on the call no more than 1 minute at a time. I will wait 3-5 minutes between calling sequences. And when I call I try to make it sound like something is tearing the guts out of the critter I am trying to imitate. I use short breaths as I don't believe rabbits have huge lung capacities so my sounds are short. I start each sequence with a rather strong "voice" but I trail it off like the rabbit is losing energy and about all tuckered out.

If I have a dog coming that hangs up in I might give a few "whimpers" on the call.

I like to hunt with a buddy so one is calling while the other is the shooter. If this is the case, sometimes I will just lay on the ground behind the bush and watch the show while doing the calling for him.

When buddy hunting, I like to sit so each has a different view but can still whisper back and forth IF necessary. I've tried to buddy hunt where one is a hundred yards from another and in the broken type of country I call in it doesn't seem to work too well for me.

I will stay in one stand for as much as 30 minutes depending on how much (vast) the area I am calling into. If the area is really big (i.e. you can see for a mile or more) I will call much slower and not as often on a stand like that as the coyote must cover a lot of territory to get into range and you don't want to over call.

If the stand did not produce any dogs and I am buddy hunting, one of us will raise up very slowly with rifle at the ready while the other is still seated and is ready to shoot. The movement of getting up will cause any dog who you hadn't seen to bolt and then you will have fun with a running shot at a dog in high gear.

'Bout all I know on the subject. so guess you can see why I'm not always sucessful. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
I do things pretty much like elkslayer with a coupe of small differences.

I am not a good judge of distance, so when I first sit down before I start calling. I use my laser range finder to range different objects in the area such as trees or rocks or whatever. This gives me an idea when a coyote is within the effective range of whatever fire arm I happen to be carrying.

Often I will use what I call a confidence call in conjuction with a rabbit distress. I use a hawk screamer most often. I believe that this plays out a realistic scenario for attentive ears.

Because we have fox and bobcats in the areas I hunt, I don't normally use a howler until I'm about to give up on a set, or unless it's mating season. Sometimes when I get a response to the howl but no comers, I will keep them talking while my partner stalks in on their response. Killed more than a couple of coyotes doing this.

Late in the season after the stupid ones have all been killed or educated I will use an electronic calls more often. I much prefer to use a mouth call but I just can't duplicate some of the sounds available with the electronics.

Dale
 
I did go strictly with mouth calls only last year for a couple of reasons. First is the weight issue, some type of noise maker and the tapes to go with it get heavy during the day and I ain't gettin' any younger /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-006.gifSecond is the fact a lot of the competition is using them almost exclusively because it is easier than learning the rythem of mouth calls.They fear using the mouth call because they don't believe in themselves. Coyote is not particular as long as it sounds like it is in trouble.

Calling the thickets is easy compared to working big timber. Cover to hide your silhouette is everywhere in the thickets. In big timber you don't have anything except the trees. You have to watch even the color of the bark of the tree you choose to sit by. As long as the tree is dark your camo will work pretty good. If you sit against a white oak your asking to be seen, all you are is a blob that doesn't belong against that white bark.

Wind is something I check over and over before sitting. I want to know where it is going to dump my scent if at all possible. In steep hills thermals are my worst enemy. These winds swirl and eddy in ways I don't yet understand for certain. I do know that care must be taken to get high enough on the hillside to be in the predominant winds. A foot in the wrong direction and everybody knows where you are. I have been in situations where I thought I was calling cross wind in areas like this and had coyotes scent me 400 yards across the valley, directly crosswind to where I was sitting. My only explanation for this is the terrain and thermals swirling against the hills at the head of the valley bringing my scent back down the oposite side to them.I checked it afterwards to find out what went wrong.Six or seven coyotes giving an alarm bark at one time is something you don't want.I haven't forgotten that lesson!

In this kind of cover and terrain noise is a big problem. Snap crackle and pop in the woods is normal to some extent. But we humans have a walking rythem that is not normal in the woods. When I think I am close enough to the area I think is holding the animals I stop and setup. I don't want to get close enough to spook something that may be bedded nearby.Just close enough that a blast from the call can be heard. If that doesn't work I move a few hundred yards further down ridge and setup again. This way I am not dropping into the bed grounds unanounced. I get them to come out to me.

This is a very good habit to get into when you hunt regularly with a beginner. It takes a while for the newby to get used to the rythem of the woods and to pace themselves.Stop and go patterns are normal for everything out there and we humans have to learn to do this as well.Move a short distance and stop. Talk very softly when you do speak to answer his questions. Use these stops as oportunities to show them what you are looking for in a setup or to answer their questions. It helps to relax them and makes things easier on them.If your not in a rush or impatient, you will both enjoy the time out there much more.That is what we are about anyway, having a good time in the outdoors /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Jimmie
 
Here is a picture of one of my calling areas. The entire place is a mass of small fields and wood lots seperating them. In the picture the black line is a path that cuts through the property. The green patches are conservation land and the gray patches are private land that you can hunt on. The yellow line is the path I take to get to my stand site. Where it turns red, that is the place where you really have to put the sneak on to get set up. The blue line is a trail that the coyotes use. I know this because I have tracked them in the winter and spring when there is enough soft ground to see what they are up too. Also, there are barb wire fences everywhere here. Keeping an eye on the fences will often give you a clue as to where they cross. You would be amazed at how much fur a coyote will leave on a fence. The red dots are where I set up - at number 2. If I have a calling partner, I put him at number one. This is a fence row that is overgrown and provides great cover. The orange x and the orange line are where coyotes have approached.

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I only hunt this area if the wind is out of the west or northwest. Anyother wind direction and I go someplace else. That is blowing left to right in the picture.

Getting into the stand site is easy for the most part, but you have to be sneaky to get set up on the fence row and on the opposite side of the field. I have always believed that if I have to let things settle down before I start calling, I have not been quiet enough getting in. It doesn't always happen, but if you try to act that way, you will be a lot quieter. This area is also full of turkeys. I always have a mouth call with me, and if I make noise, I will give a few yelps or a cluck. In areas that have lots of tree rats, a squirel call that you shake is good too. Just be sure that when you use that call you stand still for a few minutes because you never know who is going to come check it out.

If I arive before daylight, I will get to my stand and just sit there. The coyotes use the edges just like deer, and I know from hunting here in the past, that they come out in the middle of the field across from where I am set up and then use the edge to get to the end of the field where it turns to corn to cross. Every now and then, you can snipe one without blowing a call. This is a natural travel area for them.

Once the sun gets up and I have been sitting for 30 minutes or so, I let go on a cottontail distress call. I give it a good 30 seconds of hard mournful calling and then I look, and listen. A lot of time the coyotes will pop out of the woods opposite me and just stand there looking. But most of the time, I draw one from the woods behind me. The field where the orange arrow is funnels them to the corner of the fence row, and that is why I set up above the fence row. It lets the coyote do what he naturally is going to do anyway, try to get down wind. But in reality he can't unless he crosses the field. Usually he will just work the edges and try to get a sniff and a look. If I get no takers on the first 30 seconds of calling, I will call again in about 5 minutes. I will sometimes sit here for a good hour. I know the coyotes move along this area so sooner or later, one is going to hear me. Every now and then one will catch me napping, and slip back into the woods. A good puppy squeal will often pull them right back to the edge for a second look.

One point we don't talk about often is to leave the area as quietly as we did when we came in.

I never change calls on a stand except to use the hurt pup sounds.

I think if you can get maps of where you are going to call, especially aireal maps, you can often find places that will allow you to use the terrain to funnel the coyote to you. Just like deer, I never try to force them to do anything that they would not do naturally. If they want to try to get down wind of me, I try to let them have an easy go of it. The maps will help you pick out potential stand sites.

Good luck and good hunting

Al
 
Hey Al, I want to play devils advocate here. I understand position number one very well. It's position 2 that is not clear. What aids you in seeing the coyote since this would be a down wind calling position? Is it higher in elevation than the aproach lane? Just what is it that made you choose that spot over a couple of others I see in the area there?

Al makes a very good point in his post. Setup needs to be such that a coyote will use the aproach you give him. Even an aproach from up wind of you needs to have something that will make the animals want to come on in.Position number one is completely surrounded by such aproach lanes.Jimmie
 
Yes Jimmy, these are rolling hills and position 2 is at the top of a hill. The woods behind position 2 are at a much lower elevation. It's a pretty steep bank. If you will also notice that the trees that are shown to the north of (or behind) possition 2 are dark. These aireal photos were taken in April of 1994. There were no leaves on the trees yet in New Hampshire in April, so the dark trees are pines, hemlocks and some spruces - evergreens if you will - and the forest floor there is very open. Great visability. The path the coyotes have taken in the past, represented by the orange arrow and line is really along a trail that connects the two fields. There is a barb wire fence running along side the orange arrow to the left of it also. They come right up that bank, and they do it so silently that one minute you are staring at trees and the next you are looking at a coyote 35 yards away. It freeks people out when they bust over the top of the hill and just stand there inside the tree line trying to make up their minds what to do. And they usually do just stand there for a few seconds - looking.

In most cases, when I hunt this area I usually take someone with me. I always let them sit at position 1 because I am pretty sure they will have some action there. At position 2 I have a better view of the opposite side of the field, and since this is where they travel and cross, I will sometimes see them come out to work the edge down to where they cross the field. Where the blue line that crosses the filed is, there is a slight depression, and they use this to go across the field.

I have never seen or heard of one of my partners seeing a coyote come from directly south of position 1. Part of this is because this path in to the fields is used quite heavily by snow machines and 4 wheelers. The blue line that runs just south of our path in runs along part of a creek bed, and they travel this all year long.

The area just below the orange x is a field and below that it is pretty swampy - usually always wet. But where that small field is below the x there is a strip of trees that they use. They hardly ever just cross open ground here. They always find something to give them cover even if they have to go farther to get to where they want to go.

So what I am trying to do here is to use the terrain to my advantage, and the paths the coyotes take as well. They seem to run in the low spots. And when they come to a call, they never just bust into a field, they always get to the edge and look first. They may be back a few yards in the brush and you may just see a head and ears, but they are there looking.

So, I hope that explains it some from my perspective. Now, about those spots you said you might work - give it up /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

What might you do and where might you set up - I am always open for suggestions for as I said on another board, sometimes I think these old coyotes use me to train their pups /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I hate being a sucker /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
No 1 is the prime spot given the access you have. But just above the number 3 and slightly right is a point of woods looking like the state of Mich. It has a connecting fencerow to the next woods. All of these corners there give several aproach lanes which can be watched from one position.It gives a slightly better advantage over various wind conditions than spot one. And it is within calling distance of the heavy used trail.With a decent access from above it I believe it would pay off.

Another would be to the right of the number one where the winds would blow your scent down the long open field. But the problem with it is the protected area close by. But if there were no protection zone there next to it you have a ready made pair of travel lanes to the southern corner through the woods. Scent is blowing out across a large open area with the winds you normally use.Still keeping you within calling distance of both major trails.

But none of our guess work is worth a dime without the ground work learning where the majority of travel is done.Add the ground work with a good arial photo and you take out a lot of empty calling positions quickly. Jimmie
 
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