V-MAX vs. A-MAX
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Boeydafunk
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I thought that bolth were for hunting, but one was for Varmints and one was for slightly larger game.
DaFunk
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ColoradoOsprey
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Hornady has said that the Amax and Vmax have the same construction, both are equal for hunting...
I don't know why they would say that? I've sectioned both, and they are not constructed the same.
- DAA
I'm interested too where that was seen.
I know that the SST and V-max are similar, at least from an outside perspective. But here are some differences in the V-Max and SST. I believe that the A-max is even more different as it was designed from the ground up as a match bullet.
Here is a link and quote from Hornady's web site:
http://www.gunsandammomag.com/ammunition/shock_value/index.html
"For starters, the copper jackets used on the SST bullets is .0010 thicker than the jackets used on Hornady's V-Max varmint bullets, and have a tighter grain structure. When the jacket cup is fully drawn, the jacket itself is 19 percent thicker, which aids in weight retention and assists in penetration. In addition, the lead core of the SST is a harder alloy, featuring a five-percent antimony content. These premium ingredients, combined with Hornady's Interlock construction helps hold the heavier and tougher jacket and core together until reaching the vitals on big game."
One thing I have noticed with 6mm bullets the A-max is the long boat-tail design, where the V-max has a much shorter boat-tail. Maybe this is just a product of bullet weight as most V-max are lighter weight and most A-max are heavy. Don't know....just speculating.
Another thing I have noticed is in .224 cal the V-max is not available in boat-tail design while the A-max is only available in boat-tail.
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Hornady has said that the Amax and Vmax have the same construction, both are equal for hunting...
I don't know why they would say that? I've sectioned both, and they are not constructed the same.
- DAA
I'm interested too where that was seen.
I know that the SST and V-max are similar, at least from an outside perspective. But here are some differences in the V-Max and SST. I believe that the A-max is even more different as it was designed from the ground up as a match bullet.
Here is a link and quote from Hornady's web site:
http://www.gunsandammomag.com/ammunition/shock_value/index.html
"For starters, the copper jackets used on the SST bullets is .0010 thicker than the jackets used on Hornady's V-Max varmint bullets, and have a tighter grain structure. When the jacket cup is fully drawn, the jacket itself is 19 percent thicker, which aids in weight retention and assists in penetration. In addition, the lead core of the SST is a harder alloy, featuring a five-percent antimony content. These premium ingredients, combined with Hornady's Interlock construction helps hold the heavier and tougher jacket and core together until reaching the vitals on big game."
One thing I have noticed with 6mm bullets the A-max is the long boat-tail design, where the V-max has a much shorter boat-tail. Maybe this is just a product of bullet weight as most V-max are lighter weight and most A-max are heavy. Don't know....just speculating.
Another thing I have noticed is in .224 cal the V-max is not available in boat-tail design while the A-max is only available in boat-tail.
CatShooter
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Hornady has said that the Amax and Vmax have the same construction, both are equal for hunting...
I don't know why they would say that? I've sectioned both, and they are not constructed the same.
- DAA
Which ones have you sectioned...
The .224, 52gr A-Max is exactly like the 50 and 55 V-Maxs.
In the larger calibers, Hornady says they have the same jacket thickness (20 mils).
I do know that in the larger calibers, the A-Maxs can blow apart when spun too fast, just like varmint bullets.
But I know that the 30 cal, 178 A-Max is NOT a varmint bullet - they will run the full length of a deer in one piece.
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Hornady has said that the Amax and Vmax have the same construction, both are equal for hunting...
I don't know why they would say that? I've sectioned both, and they are not constructed the same.
- DAA
Which ones have you sectioned...
The .224, 52gr A-Max is exactly like the 50 and 55 V-Maxs.
In the larger calibers, Hornady says they have the same jacket thickness (20 mils).
I do know that in the larger calibers, the A-Maxs can blow apart when spun too fast, just like varmint bullets.
But I know that the 30 cal, 178 A-Max is NOT a varmint bullet - they will run the full length of a deer in one piece.
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jagrdawger
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When I called Hornady last year I got the same answer. The 52 Amax and the V-max use the same jacket, but the final shape is different. They also said that they should have similar terminal characteristics on varmints.
I have used them in a .223, 22-250 and 220 Swift with very good accuracy.
I have used them in a .223, 22-250 and 220 Swift with very good accuracy.
MPFD
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The tech line at Hornady told me that the A max (maximum accuracy) bullets are a ballistic tip match bullet that should not be used in hunting. That being said, the Hornady manual says 30 cal A-max are approved up to CPX2 class game (light skinned; or deer sized). I know a lota people the have anchored deer with match bullets, so I'm sure they will work. I probabaly wouldn't use them in a shot over say 400 yards, because of they are not tested for expansion. No guarntees, but in my experience a 30 caliber hole through the vitals will usually kill anything in the lower 48.
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Hornady has said that the Amax and Vmax have the same construction, both are equal for hunting...
I don't know why they would say that? I've sectioned both, and they are not constructed the same.
- DAA
Which ones have you sectioned...
The .224, 52gr A-Max is exactly like the 50 and 55 V-Maxs.
Not the ones I sectioned. I looked at the 52 Amax and the 50 Vmax, they were definitely different. The Vmax core had a void behind the plastic tip, the Amax did not.
That was quite awhile ago, when the 52 Amax first came out, and the Vmax I used were even older. Maybe things have changed since then. But those two bullets I looked at, were absolutely not constructed the same.
- DAA
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Hornady has said that the Amax and Vmax have the same construction, both are equal for hunting...
I don't know why they would say that? I've sectioned both, and they are not constructed the same.
- DAA
Which ones have you sectioned...
The .224, 52gr A-Max is exactly like the 50 and 55 V-Maxs.
Not the ones I sectioned. I looked at the 52 Amax and the 50 Vmax, they were definitely different. The Vmax core had a void behind the plastic tip, the Amax did not.
That was quite awhile ago, when the 52 Amax first came out, and the Vmax I used were even older. Maybe things have changed since then. But those two bullets I looked at, were absolutely not constructed the same.
- DAA
CatShooter
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Not the ones I sectioned. I looked at the 52 Amax and the 50 Vmax, they were definitely different. The Vmax core had a void behind the plastic tip, the Amax did not.
That was quite awhile ago, when the 52 Amax first came out, and the Vmax I used were even older. Maybe things have changed since then. But those two bullets I looked at, were absolutely not constructed the same.
- DAA
That make sense. Hornady said they were the same, except that the 52 A-Max was 0.02" longer in the body (cylinder) section.
I couldn't figure how the 0.02" could add up to 2 grains of weight... but if there is no hollow behind the tip, that's where the weight comes from, and why the 50 will open faster... in the 50, the tip gets a running start before it hits the core and opens it up.
Thanks.
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Not the ones I sectioned. I looked at the 52 Amax and the 50 Vmax, they were definitely different. The Vmax core had a void behind the plastic tip, the Amax did not.
That was quite awhile ago, when the 52 Amax first came out, and the Vmax I used were even older. Maybe things have changed since then. But those two bullets I looked at, were absolutely not constructed the same.
- DAA
That make sense. Hornady said they were the same, except that the 52 A-Max was 0.02" longer in the body (cylinder) section.
I couldn't figure how the 0.02" could add up to 2 grains of weight... but if there is no hollow behind the tip, that's where the weight comes from, and why the 50 will open faster... in the 50, the tip gets a running start before it hits the core and opens it up.
Thanks.
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