Vmax concerns?

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mi_yotes

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I shot a crow with 50gr Vmax in 223 today. Blew it to pieces. If it does this to a crow how fur friendly would this be on yotes? I would like to save pelts.
 
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I shot my first (any only) coyote with a 50 GR VMAX from my 22-250 and it made a pretty good hole. Probably 3-4" in diam. I hunted with "Elks" from this site and he used a .223 with soft points and had real good results. He may have more info for you. They're a LOT of fun on Prairie Dogs though! PD
 
I've used the 50 gr V-max out of my AR15 for a while. They were very accurite, but sometimes got bad results. Some very ugly results. Bullet placement is always a factor though. I would deffinitely stay away from any bones with them.

I pretty much gave up on the 22 cal's and went to the 17, and am now messing with the 20 cal. It's really hard to beat a 17 centerfire for fur collecting. But you were asking about the 223 weren't you. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
I'm shooting the 40 grain V-Max out of my .223 with very explosive results. I haven't chronographed them but I'm guessing they're a little over 3500 fps. Never shot a coyote with them but some on this and other forums have claimed very good success out to about 250 yards. I know from my experiance shooting rockchucks that the 40 V-Max turns them into just a red mist and chuncks!
 
I use the 40 grn V-max at 3496 FPS. They fragment and generally don't exit. I have shot six yotes with this load. You sometimes don't get alot of penitration so you got to hit them good.
 
I have been using the Vmax in .223 & .22-250 with mixed results. Great accuracy with maybe 20% torn up mostly with the .22-250. The rest have been small entrance with usually no exit. With no science the Blitzking seem to be a little tougher with tiny entrance and some small exits. The pointed soft points give consistant small entrance and small exit. I prefer 50 & 55 gr for both calibers.
 
I'd junk the V-max for coyotes. The last one I asaw shot with a V-max was with a 22-250 at 80 yards behind the shoulder. The ENTRANCE was the size of a baseball. It killed the coyote but point of impact should tell you what that bullet did. It did what it was supposed to; blow up. The V-max is a prarie dog bullet not a coyote bullet.
 
The 110gr. .277 V-Max will turn crows inside 300yards into an impressive black puff. They are very accurate out of my .270 imp. at 3575fps. I did vaporize a bullet in heavy snow on Friday. I know that several people will say that this can not happen, but the only time I see it is in the rain or snow. The bullet fragments were recovered from the snow.
 
Im with pd buster, I use soft points out of my 223 and they group extremely well and I shot a coon with it the other night and small entrance hole with a no exit I recovered the bullet and it had good weight retention and expanded nicely. (Sierra soft point boat tail or Hornady Soft point flat base.)
 
I think the secret to V-maxes on coyotes is speed. Stoke them up in hot cartridges like the .22-250 and you can get ugly results. I've shot 50 grain V-maxes in my .223 and 75 grainers in a .243 with fairly consistent results - tiny entrance and a small exit, if at all. The .223 doesn't exit very often. In neither of these rifles was I pushing the bullets very fast. I intentionally chose very mild loads for coyotes, and my results have been quite good. This approach probably won't work for those of you hunting in wide open spaces with long shots, but here in the desert (where my longest shot has been about 150 yards) it works great.
 
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vmax_blaster- I shot a coyote yesterday with a 50gr vmax from my 22-250 at 8 yards. Almost ripped it in half. I am now using 52gr matchking hp.


I took one at 16 yds two days ago with 55 VMax, bullet did very little damage....zipped right thru. Got 3 yotes out of 4 in the pack!
 
I have had very good results on coyotes using 60 gr vmax's out of an AR at around 2900 fps. I believe the slower speed helps give better penetration before complete bullet upset. Bullet placement is also very important as some have already stated.

Good Luck and Good Hunting,

Troy
 
Hey Gander.

40grn V-max, 223 Win brass, Rem 7 1/2 primer, OAL 2.238, 25.7 grains of Alliant 10X -------- This is above listed MAX. I use this load in my bushmaster which has the 5.56 chambering and is is completely safe (no preasure signs)

Alliant list the max load as 25.3 grains and OAL of 2.2.

I am getting great acuracy and very low E.S. (18) and S.D.(8), this is by far the best I have achived in the AR.
 
pcammo,
When bullets start blowing up it is a sure sign you are ready for a new barrel. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif

Jack
 
Im shooting these in the blue box Black Hills. What Im gathering from you guys is that its a hit or miss wether it will be fur friendly. Well I hope it will be cause my AR just loves them.


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We have been using Hornady 75gr bthp's this year and have had great results in .223. I have never had good luck with v-max bullets, either with knockdown power or pelt damage. I love a good solid hp. I think you will be hard pressed to find a better bullet to shoot out of an AR. We have had great knockdown power and virtually no pelt damage at all. Most of the time we have to really look to find an entrance hole. If they do exit it is no bigger than a quarter. They exit about half the time, really depends on the angle.

take care,

Todd
 


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