WELL I TRIED I'M SHELVING THE EOTECH SIGHT

Nucleartech

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I took my Remington R-15 .223 with Eotech Scope out to the range on Thursday & after about 30 rounds and lots of adjustments, I can truly say the Eotech's red dot just isn't going to work, at least for me. I used my buddies Rifle with a Vortex 6-24x50 scope which has the Mil Dot Reticle AO & as far out as 400 yards out I was dead on!!! Not to say the Eotech by any means is a bad scope, it just didn't work out for me. So I will most likely be putting it up for sale, it's brand new & I also bought the Scopecoat for it also. So if anyone is interested it's a 552.A65.
 
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I don't think the EO-Techs were ever designed for long range shooting.. Unless you add an magnifier to one, your general accuracy will be about 100 yards max for semi-precision shooting (4" bull).... They were designed for shooting man sized targets past 100 yards and after about 200 yards are still 'iffy'..

They are best suited for multiple short range targets or targets that are moving at a rapid pace..and to be used with both eyes open for better visibility..
 
It could be your eyesight. I found I could shoot a 100 yard group just over an inch with mine, provided that I keep the intensity turned down so it's not blooming.
I've got 20/10 eyesight (with glasses) though, so maybe that has something to do with it.

If you're wanting to shoot past about 150 yards, though, it's not the best solution.

Sorry to hear you had that bad experience.
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Not really a bad experience, maybe I was expecting too much, anyway going to put it up for sale, got a new scope on order already.
 
They make a great/fantastic close quarters optic for an AR carbine style of rifle and like OT stated with a magnifier they perform decent at medium ranges but thats about all they were intended for.

It sounds like you already have things under control on your end. What did you order???
 
Glad to see ya took the time to try it for yourself. Eotechs are made for doorkickers, not coyote hunters...

Sure they could work for close range stuff, but can't hang with a traditional optic for precision shot placement on small critters from a football field or two away. Just not what they were designed for...
 
Originally Posted By: knockemdownGlad to see ya took the time to try it for yourself. Eotechs are made for doorkickers, not coyote hunters...

Sure they could work for close range stuff, but can't hang with a traditional optic for precision shot placement on small critters from a football field or two away. Just not what they were designed for...

Now Fred, are you calling me a thug?
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I'd pretty much agree with your assessment for the EOTECH alone, but w/ a magnifier, it's can make a quite capable 200yd predator hunting optic for some folks. I will also add, the EOTECH (at least for me) took a considerable amount of practice for my eyes to become accustom to the sight. Once my eyes "became familiar" with the sight, I printed a 5shot 1/2" group at 100yds w/ my setup (Eotech 557 w/ 3X magnifier and a 16" AR). Besides, we both know an onery old man down in Phoenix area that puts down his fair share of fur with this same set up.

To the OP, don't take a big loss on the EOTECH before you've given it adequate time. I couldn't produce anything better than 4-5" groups the first couple times I shot mine setup and that was with a magnifier. I truly believe the optic has a niche in predator hunting. It definitely has limitations, but in certain terrains/conditions, it can be an asset.
 
Hey Dirk,
Naw I wasn't calling you a thug,
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I was calling you the SWAT guy who kicks doors in to shoot thugs...
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I know a bunch of guys who shoot Eo's & Aimpoints for coyotes and can't argue with their successes. I've done so myself, and even posted a video up using a "CQB" type 1-4X optic to hit my coyote target repeatedly @ 200 + 300yds off stixs...

It's just that I found those type optics limiting in the fact that (IMHO) magnification pays dividends when the range gets longer. Not high power magnification, but coyotes sure do get small and easily lost out there in the brush. Also, dot type sights can indeed become obscuring under the same conditions...

Here's where a variable in the 3-9X 'ish range (give or take) , although 'boring' in it's normalcy, is much better suited to the realm of shooting possibilities a stand is likely to produce. From the 40yd dope standing broadside, to the 300yd sly dog who hangs up or caught ya moving...

For guys who call them into their lap, in tight brush or shoot at many runners, the Eotech could prove excellent. It's on the other end of the spectrum I find The Eo's (and the aforementioned CQB scopes) limiting in the grand sceme of coyote killing...

So if/when we get hunting together (and hope that is sooner than later), you take care of the 50yarders with your Eotech. If they make it in that close, they are all yours
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One thing is for sure, I'd not doubt the ability of a shooter who SHOOTs with his Eotech regularly over another who's got the bestest, mostest newest fangled scope in the Universe who relys on his gear to make a hit...

good shootin'
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Well for what its worth,,the eotech will never match a variable scope for precision shooting beyond 100 yards.

I do some shooting at different ranges with a Coyote x-ray target(life sized) on occasion before i hunt,,this does 2 things for me,,gives me actual shooting conditions so i can estimate ranges better(due to how it looks in the scope at different ranges)and builds confidence at making kill shots.

The reason i mention this,,you can get a pack of these for around 7 bucks,,,set up 3-4 of em,,shoot from sticks,then you will know the eotechs capabilities.

Hope this helps...............X
 
EOTech makes an extremely TOUGH, ACCURATE site.

As Fred mentioned, the site was designed for close in work.
It has a very useful place when coyote hunting in thick brush with either a rifle or shotgun. It's about as perfect as you can get for those close in shots.

But, in actuality, if you are calling more open country, the magnifier is needed. I've commented before here that the site would be an under 200 yard site, but with the magnifier, it becomes a whole other animal.

My magnifier has the quick flip on it so that it's very easy to use, or not use the magnification as may be needed.
 
I appreciate all the comments & I agree about the close in shooting. I gave it a shot & it didn't work out for me, so I'm moving on to another scope. Going to sell the Eotech & move on. Thx's
 
Yea eye sights vary a lot. I'm like 20/400 in my left eye. I'm left eye dominate too. I see things about 20% larger with my left eye than my right eye. I never had that problem until after I had open heart surgery. Every since that operation my eye sight went to [beeep].

Even with new eye glasses my eyes are still a problem.

My old hunting buddy had really good eye sight when we were younger. He would always see the ducks before anyone else did. He would say get down here come some ducks and I would be looking around thinking to myself WHERE? lol. And that was when I was only 20 years old.

If you wear eye glasses or contacts or have vision problems then that could be part of the reason why it's harder to see to shoot good groups.

I've shot groups at 100 yards at the shooting range that were under 1/2 in size with my Remington Model 660 222 cal rifle. And I shot my neighbors AR15 with my Nikon Scope mounted on it with 7/8" groups.

My own AR 15 shoots under 1" moa all day long at 100 yards.

If I take my time and have a good solid bench rest and shooting bag then I can control my breathing and shoot pretty good. But I still have trouble seeing the target at times due to a blurry vision problem. I think it's the Blood Pressure Medicine that I take that causes my vision to get blurry at times.

Having more light coming though the scope helps I guess. A larger front object with better glass will pass more light though the scope to the eye.


And then there is the parallax problem with some rifle scopes. Some scopes are only setup to be parallax free at 100 yards. Some more expensive rifle scopes let you adjust the reticle for parallax at different ranges.

Lots of things can affect your shooting. Rifles, Scopes, eye sight, Weather and wind, bullet type etc. There are a lot of variable to try to control.

But the one we often forget about is the most important one of all IMHO. Our eyes.


Originally Posted By: Evil_LurkerIt could be your eyesight. I found I could shoot a 100 yard group just over an inch with mine, provided that I keep the intensity turned down so it's not blooming.
I've got 20/10 eyesight (with glasses) though, so maybe that has something to do with it.

If you're wanting to shoot past about 150 yards, though, it's not the best solution.

Sorry to hear you had that bad experience.
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I would buy it but I already have an EOTECH system for my rifle. Someone might get a good deal.



If one used the G33 magnifier it's pretty PRECISE at 100 yards. I shot a two shot group that were almost touching each other. That's using the EXPS3-4 and the Center Red dot at 100 yards with everything sighted in at 50 yards. I'll be taking it out to the rifle range again and shooting at the 200 yard range to see how it works with the G33 magnifier.

Edit: Well I finally went to the range again and shot at the 200 yard range. My Precision was not so good. Groups were mostly within 4" of the center of the bulls eye. I only shot 8 times. Two were right inside the bulls eye and two were just outside the first ring outside the bulls eye and the rest were inside the first ring outside the bulls eye.

I used a Shoot N C target with a bulls eye that's 1.5" radius and the next ring is 3" radius. The 1 MOA dot on the EXPS3-4 with the G33 mag pretty much covers up the 3" diameter bulls eye at 200 yards.

So my conclusion has changed a bit. I'd say for ME that I would not really want too use the EOTECH for targets beyond 200 yards during the day. I'd prefer to use my Nikon M223 scope instead for wide open areas and long shots during the daylight hours.

I got the EOTECH because of some of the terrain I plan on hunting is pretty thick and I can't see that far all the time. So I leaned towards a close in weapons system more than a long range weapons system. The EOTECH HHS1 offers the best of both worlds for me.

I could easily just put a good 4x16x42 Nikon M-233 BDC 600 on my rifle. But I think I like the EOTECH better for what it's worth.
 
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