what 308 bullet for 1000 yard steel?

layback04

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I have plenty of the 168 smk, but have been reading that thr 175 smk may be a better choice for that range. The gun is a remington 308 700 sps varmint and i am open to any bullet for this kind of range. I have also tossed around the 155 scenar, 178 amax and the 175 hornady match bullet. I would prefer to only try two of these bullets, which do you recommend for 1000+ yard steel?
 
Im currently running the Berger 175 OTM's (#30105) over Varget with great success. I have to say they are the most consistent projectiles I have ever purchased. Every bullet in the box weighs exactly 175 grs. Remember this, consistency is the key to hitting the mark at long range.

1. High BC (0.259 G7)
2. Insensitive to seating depth
3. Very consistent
 
I like the 175 Match Kings, but... the 155 Scenar is so much better, that I bought 2000 of them in bulk a few years back.

Wouldn't you know, I haven't shot long range since then but maybe 100 rounds or so!

Oh well. They don't get stale sitting there in the box in the garage!
 
All the bullets you listed will work , except the 168 smk. They lose stability when the transition to subsonic. 175s do not need to stay supesonic to make it to 1k.
 
Originally Posted By: Joe MAll the bullets you listed will work , except the 168 smk. They lose stability when the transition to subsonic. 175s do not need to stay supersonic to make it to 1k.

With decent loads, the 168 is supersonic at 1,000 yards, and it still sucks. It was not a good design to begin with.

The subsonic transition thing is a myth. There are many people that shoot at real long range (1,500 - 2,500 yards) with no trans-sonic problems.


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A buddy shoots the 155amx for 600-1000. He does pretty well with them. We both ran H4895. He travels for shoots and does well. He's going to south afrixpca this year for a match and is a regular at Ben Avery in phoenix
 
The 175s are a better choice over the 168s, IME. However, the 168s CAN stay supersonic to 1000yds.

The 155 Scenars are a better choice than either, if your gun will shoot them well.

That said, I consider the 308 an 800yd cartridge. After that, it drops like a boat anchor. IME, the drop from 800yds-1000yds nearly doubles as compared to what it drops from 0-800yds (given a 200yd. zero).

In other words: With my 175gr SMK loads and a 200yd zero, I'm down just over 200" @ 800yds. At 1000yds I'm down just under 400".

If you throw any kind of wind into the mix, say a 10mph crosswind, the difference between 800yds and 1000yds also changes significantly and will separate the men from the boys in short order......
 


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