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Well ACKMAN, I have shot them and have owned a few 257AI. I also have a pretty good idea what I am talking about when it comes to tha AI cartridge. I may not have the amount of post you have here however I have been reloading a lot longer than the amount of post and the amount of time I have here at PM. Most of my family shoot them and are fans of the AI. It does take extra time to load them because you have to load them once for a standard load to fireform then you have to reload to have a AI round. So that is twice the load time to have a AI round. You are right fireforming is just part of shooting and the gun is just as accurate, but the first load is not AI even though you are shooting it out of a AI chamber, so if you are wanting to shoot a AI gun you have to run through a few rounds to create a case for reloading. That seems like a waste of bullets to me. Sure you can go out and shoot all the standard cases you want out of an AI gun but thats not the end result a person is looking for when they build an AI rifle. Alos there is extra powder involved, how do you think the bullet gets its extra velocity.