What does Fur Friendly mean???

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outdoorsman91

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I see lots of guys say that _______ caliber is "not fur friendly" when talking 'yotes and foxes... What is that? I mean, really I know what it means, but what do you consider bad. I am thining about getting a .243 for my son to deer hunt with, but it would also be my predator gun. When shooting a .243 at these predators, what kind of exits are we talkin'? Marble? Golfball? Softball? Fill me in here...
 
Basically "fur-friendly" means using a bullet that will kill a coyote or other such animal without tearing a huge exit hole and in some cases entrance hole!
You want the fur/hide to be as perfect as it can be!
 
Depends...Close range with the "wrong" bullet, could be football sized exit...Longer range with the "right" bullet could be no exit or an exit the size of your small fingernail...All depends on the situation...
 
"Fur friendly"? I get a hoot out of that term. No bullet is "fur friendly" because it leaves a hole no matter how big. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I think the term used ought to be "fur damage" because thats what bullets do to varying degrees. IMO, the damage has a lot to do with velocity and bullet contact with bone.
 
Distance, Velocity, Bullet construction, Mass of target are the main ingredients when considering performance.

I like to choose calibers that offer me a wide range of choices in bullet selection and loads.

As with most everything else in life there are compromises you have to consider.

With fur condition and prices being what they are I haven't been too concerned with pelt salvage.
 
You got that right.
For fur collecting, traps and snares work well.
Rifles are for hunting, not collecting fur. You may be able to salvage some fur shot with a rifle but traps and snares are so much better.

You can make more money per hour as a Wal-Mart greeter than collecting fur with a rifle.

Jack
 
If its money your after you are at the wrong end of the fur game with either rifle or trap/snare. Put the same hours in selling Happy Meals and your W2 will look better.
 
Fur friendly to me is a hit that is easy to fix or no fixing needed. The Nosler and Berger in my .204 work pretty good. Don't try a head shot from three feet with the Berger!!
Yup, traps and snares are my favorite method of harvesting fur, but I will shoot as many as I can to sell for fur. I have sold a few that should have been thrown out, especially red fox, from bullet damage. I think with my bullet choice I will throw very few away. The ones I throw away are mangy or full of lice.T.20
 
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You got that right.
For fur collecting, traps and snares work well.
Rifles are for hunting, not collecting fur. You may be able to salvage some fur shot with a rifle but traps and snares are so much better.

You can make more money per hour as a Wal-Mart greeter than collecting fur with a rifle.

Jack


I disagree big time.. I happent to own two "fur friendly" rifles.. and what that means to me as a taxidermist, is that I dont have to spend alot of time sewing up some big hole.. The comment about "you may be able to salvage some fur shot with a rifle" is rather lacking in accuracy. Most the animals I mount are shot. If you could not salvage fur from something that was shot there wouldnt be much need for taxidermists. Fact is a well placed shot with the correct caliber for the animals size means less sewing for me. On a 17 Rem or a 223 I can tell you one tiny stitch is usually all it takes. The 223 leaves a small hole about the size of the eraser on a pencil, the 17 rem is even smaller yet. the 22.250 tends to leave a bigger hole generally the size of a golf ball depending on location of the shot. Still can sew it up with a few more stitches.. Now a 300 mag is not fur friendly.. That one means I have to put the fur back together as if it were a jigsaw puzzle.. IN my opinion the 17 rem and the 223 would be the most fur friendly on coyotes and cats, making the fur worthy of taxidermy or fur market..
So I would say that yes there are fur friendly rifles. Meaning the least amount of damage yet still powerful enough to kill the animal.
 
Thanks RoyalOaksRanch, That is what i mean. How does the 234 compare for fur damage from the taxidermists point of view? Cats, coyotes, and fox specifically?
 
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What he said.
 


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