What is a crisp trigger?

Coyotejunki

Coyotejunki

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What exactly is a "Crisp" tripper. I've noticed many rifle for sale here have a crisp trigger. A crisp 1 1/2 lbs a crisp 2 lbs, etc....

Is it the proverbial BS, like the factory rifles that shoot 1/2 groups all day long, if you do your part?
 
I supposed everyone has their own definition of "crisp," but mine is a trigger that does not require much effort to pull, and breaks very clean with no creeping, crawling, or sucking up. If you have ever shot a Jewell on a Rem 700, or one of those older adjustable Sako triggers, that is what I would call crisp. That said, it does get thrown around a little loosely in ads.
 
Break a dry crisp cracker, and a stale damp one. That is the difference, One
cracks instantly at it's snapping point , the other bends, gives then breaks.
 
A CZ single set trigger is like that once its set. You touch it and it breaks so quick. I love those things. I just bought a Geissle DMR for my R15 from PK. I am hoping it will be "crisp" as everyone says they are.It will probably be here Monday so I will give a report.
 
Weight of pull, or overtravel have nothing to do with "crispness". "Crisp" means how clean the trigger breaks - preferably with no, or very minimal, creep. The old timers used to speak of a trigger "breaking like a glass rod" or "breaking like an icicle". When the sear breaks, it should break "clean" with minimal movement, until release. The pressure should build - then let go instantaneously.
Mark
 
A good trigger has neither creep nor over-travel. A crisp trigger has a safe but minimal amount of sear engagement and the mating surfaces should be as smooth as possible.
 
Originally Posted By: skullcreekA CZ single set trigger is like that once its set. You touch it and it breaks so quick. I love those things. I just bought a Geissle DMR for my R15 from PK. I am hoping it will be "crisp" as everyone says they are.It will probably be here Monday so I will give a report.

When CZ removes the approximately 4 and a half feet of over travel on their "Set Trigger", they will then have a true set trigger... It reminds me of a corral gate after it breaks...

A crisp trigger breaks cleanly with no creep, or take-up prior to breaking. You can have a very nice, accurate, 4 pound+ trigger if it breaks crisply...

-BCB
 
Originally Posted By: Bayou City Boy

When CZ removes the approximately 4 and a half feet of over travel on their "Set Trigger", they will then have a true set trigger...

Now that's just not true.......
My CZ set trigger's over travel is less than three feet.
Probably closer to two and a half feet..
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I could live without all the side to side play too, if ya know what I mean..

Not bashing CZ's so everyone just settle down..
Just stating my opinion...
 
Originally Posted By: RePeteOriginally Posted By: Bayou City Boy

When CZ removes the approximately 4 and a half feet of over travel on their "Set Trigger", they will then have a true set trigger...

Now that's just not true.......
My CZ set trigger's over travel is less than three feet.
Probably closer to two and a half feet..
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I could live without all the side to side play too, if ya know what I mean..

Not bashing CZ's so everyone just settle down..
Just stating my opinion...

OK..... Maybe its only two and a half feet...!
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I didn't say it was a big corral that the gate was on....
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Fire at will if you must, CZ fans. I'll be Will.....
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-BCB
 
I think the term "Crisp Trigger" has some individual interpretation in it. What's crisp for me may not be crisp for you.
For me, pull weight is not involved in defining a crisp trigger.
If there is zero creep, and an icicle break, with zero overtravel, then that is a crisp trigger. An example would be my new FN Model 70 in 7-08. The pull weight is 5 pounds even. But, it has no creep and no overtravel in it, so I call this trigger crisp. I could adjust the pull weight down, but, I can also shoot the rifle well enough with the heavy pull that I'll leave it as is for now. I can "get into" that trigger, and that's what's important for me.
I have some Rifle Basix, Timney's and others that break great, so I call them crisp triggers.
 
When CZ removes the approximately 4 and a half feet of over travel on their "Set Trigger", they will then have a true set trigger... It reminds me of a corral gate after it breaks...
I agree. The set position on the CZ's triggers suck as far as I'm concerned. I no longer use it. Crisp is all about creep and overtravel
 
My definition of a crisp trigger is is the one on my Savage. No creep, no pulling, no jerking as it just goes off when the sight picture is on. I do feel the center blade of the accu-trigger on my finger,after that it is all automatic. Now that's crisp. Bang-Flop
 
I must be the luckiest CZ owner on the planet then. When my trigger is set its doesn't have any movement in it. You touch it and its gone. I assumed all CZ's were probably like this one. Apparently I am wrong. I thought about selling that rifle since I always use my AR. I guess I should keep it since mine is so special! HaHa!
 
Over travel occurs after the trigger breaks.... Creep occurs before it breaks.

And all CZ's are alike in the design of having excessive over travel in the set trigger mode. Along with side play....

You have nothing special, so don't waste your good fortune on Lotto tickets.....

HaHa!

-BCB
 
That's a lot of certainty about a particular rifle you have never held. Before you set my trigger it is nothing special. Once its set there is not time for creep or any of the other things you profess to know about THIS particular rifle.
 
While I see your point,I couldn't give a rats behind what happens after I pull the trigger. Just to clarify MY point, with the trigger set it BREAKS quick and clean, round downrange.
 
Originally Posted By: skullcreekThat's a lot of certainty about a particular rifle you have never held. Before you set my trigger it is nothing special. Once its set there is not time for creep or any of the other things you profess to know about THIS particular rifle.

I never said any of them had creep.... The CZ set trigger design has excessive over travel built into it.... Shoot a rifle with a good/well designed set trigger and you'll maybe understand...

I'm sure yours is different and special from all the other CZ's.... It always is....

-BCB
 


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