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I didn't say a d--n thing about overtravel except that I don't care what happens at all after the trigger is pulled. Read my post a little more closely and MAYBE you will see what I am talking about. The thread was started about a "crisp" trigger and to me the CZ trigger on my rifle breaks quickly and distinctly and to me that is a "crisp breaking trigger". All the other aspects of the trigger i.e. Over travel were brought up by others, not me. I don't come on here to argue with internet gun gurus or claim to be one. I am not. I made an observation about the single set trigger, that's all. I even made it clear that I saw your point about overtravel even though overtravel is irrelevant to me.