What's Wrong With Ethanol?

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May 23, 2007
The Many Myths of Ethanol
By John Stossel

No doubt about it, if there were a Miss Energy Pageant, Miss Ethanol would win hands down. Everyone loves ethanol.

"Ramp up the availability of ethanol," says Hillary Clinton.

"Ethanol makes a lot of sense," says John McCain.

"The economics of ethanol make more and more sense," says Mitt Romney.

"We've got to get serious about ethanol," says Rudolph Giuliani.

And the media love ethanol. "60 Minutes" called it "the solution."

Clinton, Romney, Barack Obama and John Edwards not only believe ethanol is the elixir that will give us cheap energy, end our dependence on Middle East oil sheiks, and reverse global warming, they also want you and me -- as taxpayers -- to subsidize it.

When everyone in politics jumps on a bandwagon like ethanol, I start to wonder if there's something wrong with it. And there is. Except for that fact that ethanol comes from corn, nothing you're told about it is true. As the Cato Institute's energy expert Jerry Taylor said on a recent "Myths" edition of "20/20," the case for ethanol is based on a baker's dozen myths.

A simple question first. If ethanol's so good, why does it need government subsidies? Shouldn't producers be eager to make it, knowing that thrilled consumers will reward them with profits?

But consumers won't reward them, because without subsidies, ethanol would cost much more than gasoline.

The claim that using ethanol will save energy is another myth. Studies show that the amount of energy ethanol produces and the amount needed to make it are roughly the same. "It takes a lot of fossil fuels to make the fertilizer, to run the tractor, to build the silo, to get that corn to a processing plant, to run the processing plant," Taylor says.

And because ethanol degrades, it can't be moved in pipelines the way that gasoline is. So many more big, polluting trucks will be needed to haul it.

More bad news: The increased push for ethanol has already led to a sharp increase in corn growing -- which means much more land must be plowed. That means much more fertilizer, more water used on farms and more pesticides.

This makes ethanol the "solution"?

But won't it at least get us unhooked from Middle East oil? Wouldn't that be worth the other costs? Another myth. A University of Minnesota study [http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/103/30/11206] shows that even turning all of America's corn into ethanol would meet only 12 percent of our gasoline demand. As Taylor told an energy conference last March, "For corn ethanol to completely displace gasoline consumption in this country, we would need to appropriate all cropland in the United States, turn it completely over to corn-ethanol production, and then find 20 percent more land on top of that for cultivation."

OK, but it will cut down on air pollution, right? Wrong again. Studies indicate that the standard mixture of 90 percent ethanol and 10 percent gasoline pollutes worse than gasoline.

Well, then, the ethanol champs must be right when they say it will reduce greenhouse gases and reverse global warming.

Nope. "Virtually all studies show that the greenhouse gases associated with ethanol are about the same as those associated with conventional gasoline once we examine the entire life cycle of the two fuels," Taylor says.

Surely, ethanol must be good for something. And here we finally have a fact. It (SET ITAL) is (END ITAL) good for something -- or at least someone: corn farmers and processors of ethanol, such as Archer Daniels Midland, the big food processor known for its savvy at getting subsidies out of the taxpayers.

And it's good for vote-hungry presidential hopefuls. Iowa is a key state in the presidential-nomination sweepstakes, and we all know what they grow in Iowa [http://www.iowacorn.org/]. Sen. Clinton voted against ethanol 17 times until she started running for president. Coincidence?

"It's no mystery that people who want to be president support the corn ethanol program," Taylor says. "If you're not willing to sacrifice children to the corn god, you will not get out of the Iowa primary with more than one percent of the vote, Right now the closest thing we have to a state religion in the United States isn't Christianity. It's corn."

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The same greenies who whined that we need to find alternate fuel sources, are now bashing corn ethanol. They don't like the idea of fallow land being reverted back to farming. The demand for corn is creating "too much" farm land.

They are also complaining that corn normally used as animal feed will be diverted to ethanol production, thus driving up the cost of meat and poultry products.
 
I'm fine with burning oil. If they have any sense, so should the greenies. Think about it:

If oil is actually a finite resource that we're going to one day run out of, then use it up. The faster the better. When we are legitimately faced with a real shortage of it, we don't have enough & can't get it because it's just not there any more, then we will be forced to come up with a workable replacement for it.

So use it up & bring on the change /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
Here's another great reason to not use alcohol, ethenol or the other oygenated fuels:

Most road vehicles are now fuel injected. Fuel injected vehicles work by injecting a precise amount of fuel into the cylinder and that is determined by the Oxygen sensor. When you add any type of oxygenated fuel such as ethenol, alcohol, MTBE, etc., it tricks the oxgens sensor into thinking it is running lean and adding more fuel to the engine. This makes the engine usually consume more fuel to the percentage of the amount of alcohol added. For example if you add 20% ethenol you can expect 20% less fuel milage.

These alcohols also trick emmision sensors into thinking the vehicle is running cleaner because as a percentage they are cleaner, but in volume they are dirtier. If your vehicle needs 20% more fuel to do the same job as standard fuel it will in turn burn 20% more fuel and 20% more emmissions will occur. The emissions tresting equipment only reads percentages of the emissions, not volume, so they appear cleaner.

The only real way that oxygenated fuels help emissions and fuel milage is to go back to carburated engines which work off of mechanical mixture of fuel/air volume, not dependent on exhaust readings.

Oh yeah...these E85 vehicles usually get 1/2 of the rated MPG on E85 that they are rated for on real gas!
So, if you buy a E85 vehicle that gets 40mpg on real gas, your E85 fuel gas milage will be 20mpg.
 
Notice that it is the Liberals both Dems and Reps that love Ethanol. Why is it good for them? Simple! Your auto burns more Ethanol that regular gas, about 15% more. This means you need to fill up more often. More fillups, more taxes are collected. So either way we pay through the butt.
By the way Cockroach McCain and Goody goody Giuliani drink the stuff. It's cheaper than a gallon of Mexican tequila.

Frankie B. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-006.gif
 
I have a brand new 2007 chevy with the 6 litre v8 that i can use e-85. With the new engine management system on regular gas i am getting just under 22 mpg on the highway. With e-85 i am only getting 16-17 mpg. And i am also noticing a huge decrease in horsepower with the e-85. My truck struggles to pull a 7000 lb 5th wheel camper. It also struggles to pull my friends 5500 lb boat. With regular 87 octane i hardly notice they are even there. The only way i would use e-85 anymore is if it was 75 cents a gallon cheaper.
Because of the decreased mileage i am getting with it its not worth the 20 cent difference at the pump. It is actually costing me more money to use e-85 than regular gas.
 
As some have alluded to, ethanol is moonshine by it's chemical name. Used to be the "revnoors" would chase hillbillies down for making it without paying taxes on it.

Now we (taxpayers) pay 51 cents a gallon in subsidies to the producers (hillbilly or not) plus live with the disadvantages as outlined above. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

As the song said, "It's a strange strange world we live in Master Jack".
 
I think the question should be what's right with e-85?
I don't know alot about it to be honest, you would be hard pressed to find any upstate NY. I don't belive any stations carry it. Maybe it has something to do with rollercoaster weather.

It occurs to me a good percentage of the work force commutes less then 20 miles from home. I would get one of those egg looking gem cars (100% electric) for the weekly commute and then have the Jeep for the weekend. But no, Gov. regulations keep their speed down so unless you can use city-suburban roads (30mph max) they are no market magnet. Nice of them to consider protecting the oil industry isn't it.

Too bad we can't burn the dribble politicians spew, what an endless supply that would be.
 
It's a matter of distribution. Mostly, unless you're fairly close to where ethanol is refined, you won't find much of it. There's not a single station in AL with it yet. There are 2 in GA & they're both on military bases, so that doesn't help the public consumer. Last i looked I think TN had 2 or maybe 3 statewide, one of which was a public station in north Nashville.

Go to IA & there are plenty of them.
 
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Too bad we can't burn the dribble politicians spew, what an endless supply that would be.



Yeah, but can you imagine the smell?
 
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