when will powder return to the store shelves
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jarheadhunter
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lan ahead always, and try to see farther than the end of your nose.
Not everyone wants a freaking armory of ammo and powder in their house. Personally, I think its assainine that anyone has 30k of ammo in thier house. And even more assanine to broadcast it on the internet. Appreciate the guy? He just put a huge bullseye on himself if god forbid we ever went that route. Dudes like that are usually the first ones shot because they couldnt keep their mouth shut.
The hoarders and preppers have really taken a gigantic crap on the shooting sports. More or less turned it into a dog eat dog environment, so the non doomsday prepper that enjoys shooting has to scavenge like an animal just to get some rounds down range.
I have managed to get a small "stockpile" of supplies so I can continue to hunt and shoot, but I absolutely refuse to play this hoarders game.
That's one of the dumbest post I have seen lately. I know I am not going to anyones house that has a stockpile of ammo. I also am jealous as I wish I had half that.
lan ahead always, and try to see farther than the end of your nose.Not everyone wants a freaking armory of ammo and powder in their house. Personally, I think its assainine that anyone has 30k of ammo in thier house. And even more assanine to broadcast it on the internet. Appreciate the guy? He just put a huge bullseye on himself if god forbid we ever went that route. Dudes like that are usually the first ones shot because they couldnt keep their mouth shut.
The hoarders and preppers have really taken a gigantic crap on the shooting sports. More or less turned it into a dog eat dog environment, so the non doomsday prepper that enjoys shooting has to scavenge like an animal just to get some rounds down range.
I have managed to get a small "stockpile" of supplies so I can continue to hunt and shoot, but I absolutely refuse to play this hoarders game.
That's one of the dumbest post I have seen lately. I know I am not going to anyones house that has a stockpile of ammo. I also am jealous as I wish I had half that.
swift one
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Quote:From the sounds of your post, your more angry about this than you admit.
I knew I would stir the pot on this but had to say what I feel. Im very angry about the shortages of stuff. I dont believe that I should have to get all "preppered up" and have to stockpile the [beeep] out of ammo to enjoy my hobby. However, being the free country that it is, Ya'll just hoard the [beeep] up. Sooner or later you will have reached that "security blanket level" of ammo you need to hold off even the most deadliest of assaults the govnmt can do on your house. And Hopefully the sales will return to normal.
I guess I just have a different out take on getting out of dodge, Take what you can carry on your back and leave. And BTW Marine, it isnt that hard to invade most of these folks' homes to get what they need. From what I have seen from the hoarders and preppers in my area, they have all of their supplies sitting on a shelf unsecured in thier basement and/ or garage. With one or two guns laying around loosely to defend it. Get two or three guys, watch the house for a couple of days to pattern them, oh ya, and the right crew would smash most of the proppers before they knew what hit them.
At any rate, our freedoms state you can hoard as much as you want. Our freedoms also state that I can be mad as [beeep] about it. I guess in the end, I have for the most part (up to a few months ago) seen hunters and shooters a pretty much a resonable nice bunch of people that didnt get into the back stabbing, price gouging, all for me game. I see now that at least some just are not that. "All for me and F*** the next guy".
I knew I would stir the pot on this but had to say what I feel. Im very angry about the shortages of stuff. I dont believe that I should have to get all "preppered up" and have to stockpile the [beeep] out of ammo to enjoy my hobby. However, being the free country that it is, Ya'll just hoard the [beeep] up. Sooner or later you will have reached that "security blanket level" of ammo you need to hold off even the most deadliest of assaults the govnmt can do on your house. And Hopefully the sales will return to normal.
I guess I just have a different out take on getting out of dodge, Take what you can carry on your back and leave. And BTW Marine, it isnt that hard to invade most of these folks' homes to get what they need. From what I have seen from the hoarders and preppers in my area, they have all of their supplies sitting on a shelf unsecured in thier basement and/ or garage. With one or two guns laying around loosely to defend it. Get two or three guys, watch the house for a couple of days to pattern them, oh ya, and the right crew would smash most of the proppers before they knew what hit them.
At any rate, our freedoms state you can hoard as much as you want. Our freedoms also state that I can be mad as [beeep] about it. I guess in the end, I have for the most part (up to a few months ago) seen hunters and shooters a pretty much a resonable nice bunch of people that didnt get into the back stabbing, price gouging, all for me game. I see now that at least some just are not that. "All for me and F*** the next guy".
Ammo and reloading components are commodities. They go up and they go down. Simple economics are at play right now. Demand is high and supply is low equals high prices. There is nothing you can do about it until the market has had it's fill of the high prices and then demand will go down which will lower prices. There is no difference between the ammo market and the gold market. I invested into ammo rather than gold and am reaping the benefits of not being short handed. Maybe you should sell some of your gold, silver, or cash in some of your stocks to purchase something useful.
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wishin4dogs
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Do you realize that you're speaking openly about entering someone's home and stealing goods they spent their own earned money on, Swift One? I usually shake my head at this crap, and go on with life, but you are just out of bounds and wrong. That's cookoo!
I have seen what they do to people in area's where a war breaks out.. I don't want that.. I have enought to get by for a few years, but measure that with a certain amount of discretion.
People mad about the shortage should direct their fury into the mirror and Obummer. If you are mad.
Obummer said he was going to try and do gun control during his last debate.. So in October, I bought enough for several years. I just listend to what he said. So the shortage hasn't effected me.. I waiting for it to die down and will then buy more.. But as for the stores. I think that we are seeing the end of this and while it's slow, stuff is coming back..
As for the number of rounds you need.. That is a personal choice. If you are going to hunker down, when it comes, then you want a ton. But I would suggest that you also find ways to load without electricity. If you are going to go the paranoid route, you have to think about how you will handle no Propane, no gas, no grocery stores, and no electricity.
But if you are going to be out moving and foraging, then you really only need about 90 rounds to be able to get another rifle. Running out of ammo is bad... But it's not the end.. Tour in Afghanistan tought me that.
People mad about the shortage should direct their fury into the mirror and Obummer. If you are mad.
Obummer said he was going to try and do gun control during his last debate.. So in October, I bought enough for several years. I just listend to what he said. So the shortage hasn't effected me.. I waiting for it to die down and will then buy more.. But as for the stores. I think that we are seeing the end of this and while it's slow, stuff is coming back..
As for the number of rounds you need.. That is a personal choice. If you are going to hunker down, when it comes, then you want a ton. But I would suggest that you also find ways to load without electricity. If you are going to go the paranoid route, you have to think about how you will handle no Propane, no gas, no grocery stores, and no electricity.
But if you are going to be out moving and foraging, then you really only need about 90 rounds to be able to get another rifle. Running out of ammo is bad... But it's not the end.. Tour in Afghanistan tought me that.
Smokeless
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Originally Posted By: swift one Quotelan ahead always, and try to see farther than the end of your nose.
Not everyone wants a freaking armory of ammo and powder in their house. Personally, I think its assainine that anyone has 30k of ammo in thier house. And even more assanine to broadcast it on the internet. Appreciate the guy? He just put a huge bullseye on himself if god forbid we ever went that route. Dudes like that are usually the first ones shot because they couldnt keep their mouth shut.
The hoarders and preppers have really taken a gigantic crap on the shooting sports. More or less turned it into a dog eat dog environment, so the non doomsday prepper that enjoys shooting has to scavenge like an animal just to get some rounds down range.
I have managed to get a small "stockpile" of supplies so I can continue to hunt and shoot, but I absolutely refuse to play this hoarders game.
Oh yeah? Well Home Land Security stock pilling 1.5 Billion round of ammo has nothing at all to do with any of this I am sure, but that would be a great place to get p!ssed off first [HLS]. Not here with these folks.
Nobody's business how many rounds or pounds I own. You sound like one of them who want to "spread it around". Worrying about how many rounds of ammo someone might have is the same as worrying about how many rounds their magazine can hold.... It's nobody's business pal. Most of what I have stored is what I have alway kept on hand, but again it is none of anyones business when I buy or how much. These days you buy what you can when you can.
Have you thought about seeing a "shrink".
lan ahead always, and try to see farther than the end of your nose.Not everyone wants a freaking armory of ammo and powder in their house. Personally, I think its assainine that anyone has 30k of ammo in thier house. And even more assanine to broadcast it on the internet. Appreciate the guy? He just put a huge bullseye on himself if god forbid we ever went that route. Dudes like that are usually the first ones shot because they couldnt keep their mouth shut.
The hoarders and preppers have really taken a gigantic crap on the shooting sports. More or less turned it into a dog eat dog environment, so the non doomsday prepper that enjoys shooting has to scavenge like an animal just to get some rounds down range.
I have managed to get a small "stockpile" of supplies so I can continue to hunt and shoot, but I absolutely refuse to play this hoarders game.
Oh yeah? Well Home Land Security stock pilling 1.5 Billion round of ammo has nothing at all to do with any of this I am sure, but that would be a great place to get p!ssed off first [HLS]. Not here with these folks.
Nobody's business how many rounds or pounds I own. You sound like one of them who want to "spread it around". Worrying about how many rounds of ammo someone might have is the same as worrying about how many rounds their magazine can hold.... It's nobody's business pal. Most of what I have stored is what I have alway kept on hand, but again it is none of anyones business when I buy or how much. These days you buy what you can when you can.
Have you thought about seeing a "shrink".
swift one
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LOL, my pathetic stockpile consists of about 6lbs of various powder, about 400 bullets (not loaded) for my coyote rig, around 300 bullets (not loaded) for my Ghog rig, and 100 bullets (not loaded) left for my 7/08. I keep 100 completed rounds for all of te rifles that I reload for. Realistically, thats about all I keep on hand at any given time. By no means do I think that should be a person's limit nor do I think there should be a limit. But I think it's a very discusting display of a person's character to have several people stand around the Walmart stockboy while the ammo is still on the cart and he is passing it out to them like starving little rats so they can pay for it. I have seen this a couple of times already. That's nothing more than panic pandemonium. And that's just one type of display I have sen recently.
Yes, I am completely upset with our govnmt and especially DHS. And I have written several congressmen about it.
No, I do not need a shrink. I was under the impression that being upset and venting some opinions of some actions that I have seen some of my fellow shooters display recently WAS NOT A SIGN OF A MENTAL DISORDER. Please advise me if I am wrong.
I have nothing to do with nor do I support the firearms agenda this administration is trying to enforce. I am all about high cap mags. I have more than a few 17rd mags for my G17 and one 33rd happy stick. Don't put words in my mouth chief.
The whole thing about attacking an improperly armed house with a "stockpile" of ammo was not a view into my mind of any intentions that I may have if the worst happens. I plan on getting as far away from people as I can- If I can. That whole scenario was nothing more of an observation of how people are so focused on one aspect of "survival" that they seem to forget the big pic. I know one guy that had several shelves of canned and packaged food along with several cases of water. Put the whole thing on Face Book. He was proud. let the world in on his little cache secret. He was planning on defending it all with a break action 20ga shotgun with bird shot. Easy target to the malicious inclined.
30k of ammo in your house for the end of the world? Kind of assinine and far fetched in my book- but hey, it's a free country. Hoard away my friends.
Yes, I am completely upset with our govnmt and especially DHS. And I have written several congressmen about it.
No, I do not need a shrink. I was under the impression that being upset and venting some opinions of some actions that I have seen some of my fellow shooters display recently WAS NOT A SIGN OF A MENTAL DISORDER. Please advise me if I am wrong.
I have nothing to do with nor do I support the firearms agenda this administration is trying to enforce. I am all about high cap mags. I have more than a few 17rd mags for my G17 and one 33rd happy stick. Don't put words in my mouth chief.
The whole thing about attacking an improperly armed house with a "stockpile" of ammo was not a view into my mind of any intentions that I may have if the worst happens. I plan on getting as far away from people as I can- If I can. That whole scenario was nothing more of an observation of how people are so focused on one aspect of "survival" that they seem to forget the big pic. I know one guy that had several shelves of canned and packaged food along with several cases of water. Put the whole thing on Face Book. He was proud. let the world in on his little cache secret. He was planning on defending it all with a break action 20ga shotgun with bird shot. Easy target to the malicious inclined.
30k of ammo in your house for the end of the world? Kind of assinine and far fetched in my book- but hey, it's a free country. Hoard away my friends.
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Originally Posted By: swift one But I think it's a very discusting display of a person's character to have several people stand around the Walmart stockboy while the ammo is still on the cart and he is passing it out to them like starving little rats so they can pay for it.
What in the world is wrong with standing around the Walmart stock boy while the ammo is on the cart as he is passing it out??? Maybe those starving rats don't have any ammo and enjoy shooting as much as you. Maybe one of those starving rats is looking for some .22 ammo so his twelve year old can shoot his new rifle. You probably are a good guy but you are casting some serious stones at us starving rats.
What in the world is wrong with standing around the Walmart stock boy while the ammo is on the cart as he is passing it out??? Maybe those starving rats don't have any ammo and enjoy shooting as much as you. Maybe one of those starving rats is looking for some .22 ammo so his twelve year old can shoot his new rifle. You probably are a good guy but you are casting some serious stones at us starving rats.
Smokeless
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Originally Posted By: swift oneLOL, my pathetic stockpile consists of about 6lbs of various powder, about 400 bullets (not loaded) for my coyote rig, around 300 bullets (not loaded) for my Ghog rig, and 100 bullets (not loaded) left for my 7/08. I keep 100 completed rounds for all of te rifles that I reload for. Realistically, thats about all I keep on hand at any given time. By no means do I think that should be a person's limit nor do I think there should be a limit. But I think it's a very discusting display of a person's character to have several people stand around the Walmart stockboy while the ammo is still on the cart and he is passing it out to them like starving little rats so they can pay for it. I have seen this a couple of times already. That's nothing more than panic pandemonium. And that's just one type of display I have sen recently.
Yes, I am completely upset with our govnmt and especially DHS. And I have written several congressmen about it.
No, I do not need a shrink. I was under the impression that being upset and venting some opinions of some actions that I have seen some of my fellow shooters display recently WAS NOT A SIGN OF A MENTAL DISORDER. Please advise me if I am wrong.
I have nothing to do with nor do I support the firearms agenda this administration is trying to enforce. I am all about high cap mags. I have more than a few 17rd mags for my G17 and one 33rd happy stick. Don't put words in my mouth chief.
The whole thing about attacking an improperly armed house with a "stockpile" of ammo was not a view into my mind of any intentions that I may have if the worst happens. I plan on getting as far away from people as I can- If I can. That whole scenario was nothing more of an observation of how people are so focused on one aspect of "survival" that they seem to forget the big pic. I know one guy that had several shelves of canned and packaged food along with several cases of water. Put the whole thing on Face Book. He was proud. let the world in on his little cache secret. He was planning on defending it all with a break action 20ga shotgun with bird shot. Easy target to the malicious inclined.
30k of ammo in your house for the end of the world? Kind of asinine and far fetched in my book- but hey, it's a free country. Hoard away my friends.
All well and good. This is why I and several others have a "stock pile". When the SHTF we don't have to panic. We just laugh, with no frustration. It's all about preparation my friend. For example, what if you shoot 3-500 rounds a week cuz you either need to, or just want to? If you are a guy who only shoots 20 rounds a year around big game season thats one thing, but if you are a enthusiast you need much more. If you had just a bit more of what you need and had thought ahead about it you also wouldn't care about the stuff going on at Wally mart. Just saying.
BTW, having 30k of ammo isn't asinine, but complaining about other peoples preparedness, when you clearly have none, is asinine.
Yes, I am completely upset with our govnmt and especially DHS. And I have written several congressmen about it.
No, I do not need a shrink. I was under the impression that being upset and venting some opinions of some actions that I have seen some of my fellow shooters display recently WAS NOT A SIGN OF A MENTAL DISORDER. Please advise me if I am wrong.
I have nothing to do with nor do I support the firearms agenda this administration is trying to enforce. I am all about high cap mags. I have more than a few 17rd mags for my G17 and one 33rd happy stick. Don't put words in my mouth chief.
The whole thing about attacking an improperly armed house with a "stockpile" of ammo was not a view into my mind of any intentions that I may have if the worst happens. I plan on getting as far away from people as I can- If I can. That whole scenario was nothing more of an observation of how people are so focused on one aspect of "survival" that they seem to forget the big pic. I know one guy that had several shelves of canned and packaged food along with several cases of water. Put the whole thing on Face Book. He was proud. let the world in on his little cache secret. He was planning on defending it all with a break action 20ga shotgun with bird shot. Easy target to the malicious inclined.
30k of ammo in your house for the end of the world? Kind of asinine and far fetched in my book- but hey, it's a free country. Hoard away my friends.
All well and good. This is why I and several others have a "stock pile". When the SHTF we don't have to panic. We just laugh, with no frustration. It's all about preparation my friend. For example, what if you shoot 3-500 rounds a week cuz you either need to, or just want to? If you are a guy who only shoots 20 rounds a year around big game season thats one thing, but if you are a enthusiast you need much more. If you had just a bit more of what you need and had thought ahead about it you also wouldn't care about the stuff going on at Wally mart. Just saying.
BTW, having 30k of ammo isn't asinine, but complaining about other peoples preparedness, when you clearly have none, is asinine.
Acronin
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I can get just about any powder, bullet and primer I want from a gun shop about 2 1/2 hours from here. No problems, that's what is nice about living in a state most people could care less about. I'm not n the middle of all this (yet).
I was told that the American govt bought 1 Billion rounds of ammunition last fall. Any truth to this?
I was told that the American govt bought 1 Billion rounds of ammunition last fall. Any truth to this?
swift one
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Quote:BTW, having 30k of ammo isn't asinine, but complaining about other peoples preparedness, when you clearly have none, is asinine.
Well, I guess, if we have to go all out, I will just peel guns and ammo off the dead. LOL, Let's hope it doesnt come to that though. And I am definatley not going to prepare for it. I believe that this will pass.
However, One good thing about all you guys with "armories" in your homes. When all the scare and hype goes away, you folks will not have to buy ammo for a while. At least that's what I am hoping for. That will let some of us other folks who cannot currently throw most or all of of our money into investing in weapons prep get some shooting supplies back on line.
Currently, the atmosphere has forced me to buy and store more than I ususaly would so I can continue to shoot- even if it is at a lesser rate than I would norally do.
And even though I am optimistic about this whole scare passing into the sunset, I am not stupid. I too have a plan of action in place- I just choose not to share it with the world, So I don't become a possible target. One thing for sure tough, it doesnt involve taking on Apache gunships and heavily armed DHS personell in APCs like some folks (not necassarily on this site) dream about.
Well, I guess, if we have to go all out, I will just peel guns and ammo off the dead. LOL, Let's hope it doesnt come to that though. And I am definatley not going to prepare for it. I believe that this will pass.
However, One good thing about all you guys with "armories" in your homes. When all the scare and hype goes away, you folks will not have to buy ammo for a while. At least that's what I am hoping for. That will let some of us other folks who cannot currently throw most or all of of our money into investing in weapons prep get some shooting supplies back on line.
Currently, the atmosphere has forced me to buy and store more than I ususaly would so I can continue to shoot- even if it is at a lesser rate than I would norally do.
And even though I am optimistic about this whole scare passing into the sunset, I am not stupid. I too have a plan of action in place- I just choose not to share it with the world, So I don't become a possible target. One thing for sure tough, it doesnt involve taking on Apache gunships and heavily armed DHS personell in APCs like some folks (not necassarily on this site) dream about.
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