Why are cheap savages such tack drivers?

FullMoonYoteSkin

FullMoonYoteSkin

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I sold a sub MOA cheap axis years ago, was to "cheap" for me. I have to get off my high horse though, every one i have ever touched was a real tack driver with any load i shot through them. CHEAP (AMERICAN RIFLE) rugers are junk in my opinion, and im a "Ruger Guy". Does savage have it figured out? Any other opinions from you guys?
 
My gunsmith is top notch and he said that he has looked down the barrel on many different Savage models and there is no reason they should shoot as good as they do. LOL. He said he really can't figure it out but there is no denying their accuracy.
 
I think that there are some good ones out there. And I think tolerances arentighter due to cnc machining making parts the same every time. Some posts and claims belong in Rustys BS post though.

There is a reason people say that guns are like women. Short of a full custom every gun is a gamble. Some just have better odds. Pick your poison and enjoy it or modify it.
 
Originally Posted By: BeluebowDefine tack driver please.

Well, out of the box without anything done, my old axis was around .5 MOA - to .75, I must admit I'm not as steady a shooter as some either. My buddies gun will drive anything home on the money all day - and he's a cheap low dollar guy, but he gets results shooting dogs.

Yesterday I bought my father in law a new hog butchering gun (22 wmr) - he shot it a couple times before we started to slaughter hogs it was right on the money and not only that - open sights it was dead on!this gun had the most crooked uncentered barrel channel I may have ever seen but it didn't matter... I'm impressed even though my gun cabinet has guns triple and quadruple the cost - all of these savages just seem to perform
 
the past 10 years or so they have upped their QC (so i have read), and since factory rifles are parts bins guns. the extra quality control must be paying off.

the barrels are pretty good for factory stuff. chamber/throat is a cartridge by cartridge thing.

add the floating bolt head that accounts for the "non custom" slop and you start getting better rifles.

accuracy comes down to tolerances and chamber/throat and barrel. once you have all those figured out now you have to make them all inline. if the action is skewed into the barrel or if the chamber is off center compared to the bore, the bullet is being pushed around.
 
In our local groundhog shoots a fellow had a savage rifle like the ones described here in 223 rem. (all day long rifle). He asked if he could shoot it in our groundhog shoots and asked if anyone would get mad if he beat them, we said no and he was welcome to shoot. Well he shot and came in last and never came back again. But for the money they are accurate but I don't think that they will shoot .5 minute all day long. But they sure are a homely rifle.
Joe
 
Originally Posted By: jndIn our local groundhog shoots a fellow had a savage rifle like the ones described here in 223 rem. (all day long rifle). He asked if he could shoot it in our groundhog shoots and asked if anyone would get mad if he beat them, we said no and he was welcome to shoot. Well he shot and came in last and never came back again. But for the money they are accurate but I don't think that they will shoot .5 minute all day long. But they sure are a homely rifle.
Joe

I agree with you about the homely part - prob not an all day long barrel if you were getting it hot, but I bet that guy was a marginal shooter too.
 
had a savage 110 in 30-06; I regret selling it. It wasn't a bench gun, it wouldn't hold all day long, but it would shoot a 5 round ragged clover leaf with whatever bullet/powder/seating depth I could throw together on the press. It was an ugly little bugger but it put them where I pointed everytime! It took literally 45 seconds to find a .25" round to hunt with for that rifle. I spent a year tweaking the current rifle for a year. in its defense I upped my OCD game to see what I could get it to do. the current savage holds 1" at 300 yards with Berger VLD's.
 
Originally Posted By: varminter185had a savage 110 in 30-06; I regret selling it. It wasn't a bench gun, it wouldn't hold all day long, but it would shoot a 5 round ragged clover leaf with whatever bullet/powder/seating depth I could throw together on the press. It was an ugly little bugger but it put them where I pointed everytime! It took literally 45 seconds to find a .25" round to hunt with for that rifle. I spent a year tweaking the current rifle for a year. in its defense I upped my OCD game to see what I could get it to do. the current savage holds 1" at 300 yards with Berger VLD's.

Went through this same type of situation to achieve what I already had....how dumb am I?
 
I have a savage 204 weather warrior and two full customs and the savage will out shoot both with a cheap Nikon buck asters scope and cheap rings
 
I had a savage weather warrior in .223 the best I could do was an occasional .75 group my rem. 788 that sold for $75.00 new would out shoot it every time. I think the Savage rifles are fairly accurate but the rem. 788 is more accurate. Devildogg can you describe you full blown custom rifles.
Joe
 
However, like an idiot I tore it apart after that, that was an amazingly fun gun. And that was me still doing tests, bipod up front, monopod in the rear, 600 was prone in the grass, put it in a true rest with a rear bag and it'd really shine, but that wasn't my style.
I sent it off, had a rock creek 8 twist 260 tube screwed on, adjustable McMillan A5 bedded as a new stock. Great, but just wasn't me, sold it.
 
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