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Originally Posted By: gmwwWhat are you fellas using and what range before going to long rifle? Thanks ahead of time. I'm patterned at 50yds. Using an Escort semi magnum 28" barrel with a Carlson coy choke. Using Heavy Magnum 12ga. #4...3" shells. Also, has a lot to do with the terrain your hunting. Heavy brush, thickets and so on. Sometimes their on top of you quick! (And, +1 to the other replies).