Will an alloy trigger guard tighten groups on my Remington 600?

Dultimatpredator

Dultimatpredator

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I am debating on strapping my old 600 chambered in 243 on my back instead of going shotgun only calling after I had a bobcat pop out at a couple hundred yards and hang up on me. I had a rifle basics trigger installed and kept my original. I picked this trigger at the time years ago being it was the only aftermarket trigger that would use the factory lever. I wanted to keep it looking completely original.

I also acraglassed the action and approx an 1 1/2" in front of the tang. At the time I had a vx1 2x7 optic on it and tested only only one load through it. It was a 90 gr NBT load that cloverleaves in my heavy barreled predator rifle. The load shot a .5" group at 100 yards.

I'm sure with higher magnification it might shoot tighter. I did some scope swapping and switched that scope over to my CZ 452 super exclusive ultralux 22 lr and took a leupold 3x9 100 th anniversary optic of my Ruger carbine and mounted it in the 600. The scope has two drops in it so I have some quick alignment points for long range shooting. I'd like to put more magnification on it but it will increase the weight and defeat the purpose.

I am looking at a cheap ramline stock for it as well. I would assume it's lighter than the factory wood. I would definitely have to acraglass it to achieve accuracy again but it will help from scratching up the original wood stock...and I wouldn't be worried about banging it around as much.

Back to my question. It has the original plastic trigger guard on it. It's not really warped...much, until I tighten done the action screws. I am wondering if I spend a $100 on an upgraded alloy trigger guard if it will tighten my groups? I woul think an alloy trigger guard will give more of a positive lock up and be able to keep consistent touque specs and not shift around like it probably dose with the plastic one. I realize it will never be a target rifle but I would like to see if I can get it to shoot .2"-3"...a nice little cloverleaf with 55 gr NBTs. I figure a fast load with a lighter bullet will compensate for a short barrel. I will use it for a calling rifle so 1/2 shots and I'm done shooting 99.9% of the time so I'm not worried about the barrel heating up.
 
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I bought one for mine a few years ago. Mine was a 20 Practical with an Excaliber barrel in the factory stock that I bed the action on.I can't say it had any actual effect on group size but it at least let me torque the action screws with out pulling them through the plastic trigger guard.

P.S. and it looked really good too!
 
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I have a ramline stock on mine and an alloy guard. It is not light. The factory stock is a pretty nice stock, I used it for 30+ years before swapping it out when I rebarreled it to 6x45 in the late 1990's. I would get the alloy trigger guard and keep the original stock and bed it.
 
I did an alloy on my 600 but didn';t see much different.

Greg

BTW Does anyone have a 600 wood stock they want to sell for less than a down payment on a Porsche?
 
Originally Posted By: Dultimatpredator
I am looking at a cheap ramline stock for it as well. I would assume it's lighter than the factory wood.

I bet it ain't.

And I bet the trigger guard won't do diddly, either.

- DAA
 
If you are close to ‘1/2” groups at 100 yards’ it’s good to go. I would maybe do a bit of load experimentation and leave it at that. I see no reason a trigger-guard would do anything.
 
I appreciate the feedback on the posters who have tried them and didn't notice any difference in accuracy. I put a Sean Mann goose call I was given on fleabay and figured if it gets sold I'll buy the trigger guard just because. I'm sure it will add weight but probably only an ounce or two. If I don't buy one I won't loose sleep thinking I can make my 600 group tighter with it. I bet my wood stock probably weighs lighter than a ramline stock but being a cheap replacement synthetic stock it wouldn't bother me if it got scratched from use vs my factory wood and that way I don't have to worry about cracking the original. My acraglass job that beds the whole action makes it fit like a nice tight glove so I'm sure that will keep it from shifting during shots causing damage. I'm trying to work a trade for a ramline. They only sell for $89 new through midway and are expecting more in any day. If I get one one I'll camo the stock and bed it. I will still have to watch out for the plastic vented rib and shark fin sight...I'm not taking them off.

I just got done with a third coat of minwax tounge oil finish a put it back together. I though my scale in the rifle basics Trigger. It brakes at 18oz.

Gun looks like new, just figured With a Tupperware stock it will save the wood. Maybe I'll try one if my 3.5x14 40 mm prostaff 5's on it.

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Originally Posted By: GLShooterI did an alloy on my 600 but didn';t see much different.

Greg

BTW Does anyone have a 600 wood stock they want to sell for less than a down payment on a Porsche?

Along with a Ruger carbine stock...id like a spare. I'd also like a 350 with a laminate stock.
 
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I have the same model rifle in 6MM. It was the Montana centennial model. I wouldn't mess with it too much. Supposedly mine is worth over $ 700.00 at this time. Never did like the plastic ribs on the barrel or the sights that are on it. Rudy
 
Originally Posted By: rudymontana I have the same model rifle in 6MM. It was the Montana centennial model. I wouldn't mess with it too much. Supposedly mine is worth over $ 700.00 at this time. Never did like the plastic ribs on the barrel or the sights that are on it. Rudy

I've been offered over that for my 243 w/o the optic. Yeah, don't want to mess with the originality. A replacement stock and trigger guard can be switched back and forth in seconds and I would never be dumb enough to sell off the factory stuff. I have the original trigger and rear sight in my safe for it. I talk big but the gun will probably never see hard use and I will eventually end up buying a modern rifle to beat up and mess with trying to skeletonize. This gun is like a Shelby GT500 to me. It only gets taken out on nice days once in a blue moon and gets taken care of because they're rare and not making any more. I have guns I paid four times more for and they get used hard because I can replace them or their are current parts available for them
 
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I think I still have an original plastic trigger guard if someone needs it. Of course its warped just like most are.

The only real advantage to the metal trigger guard is you can tighten the action screws and not break anything.
 
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You want to hear a sad story of keeping a 600 original?

In 1966 I ordered from the Embassy Gun Shop in Taipei Taiwan the first 223 bolt gun they could get their hands on as I had an unlimited supply of ammo from an AF armorer. A Rem 600 in 223 showed up and I thought it was the ugliest gun ever made. I immediately took it to my friend and had him remove the rib, remove the lugs holding it on and round the contours of the forend. Needless to say there was no internet then and I never knew that there were only 350 600's in 223 produced and ALL were to go to law enforcement. As far as I know mine and another that was on the rack were the only two 600's in 223 that went to the civilian market. Needless to say I ruined a rifle worth thousands in original condition.

I will say I hunted pelts from 1970, did ADC work in a couple states, protected my gardens and fields and even won a couple of club informal benchrest matches with it. Many ammo cans of ball ammo went through it before the barrel went south in the 1990's and it got rebarreled to 6x45mm. It is one of the few guns in my safe that has no price tag and will be in my will or buried with me.
 
Just traded a custom turkey box call for a ram line stock. I was given the call years ago by the maker. The stock is custom spray painted. I might camo it up when it arrives besides bed it. If my goose call sells on fleabay I'll use the money for the trigger guard. I can switch back and forth for originality in minutes and not have to alter anything in the process.
 
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I had a 600 in 243 after it got to where it disdn't shoot so good I barrelled it in a 308. I carried it horseback for about 10 years to the point there was no finish on the outside of the stock. Shot literally hundreds of coyotes with it. killed my first few elk with it and quite a few deer. I loaned it to a buddy of mine one year for his wife to use deer hunting and he didn't return it promptly. I was starting to get a bit irritated because I don't like to ask for something I have loaned to be returned. He brought it back to me beautifully refinished. I used it for several more years doing most of my hunting with it. Then along came my son and got to be hunting age. He killed his first deer with it. That Christmas I gave it to him. i am proud that it is his and still in the family but of all the guns I have ever owned, that one was my favorite. I hope he makes as many memories with it as I was able to.

drscott
 


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