wolf hunting in wisconsin

I would be pretty suprised if one came anywhere near that fast. I spend a fair amount of time in the area between Ashland and Iron River and you hear people are seeing more of them in that area but you also have to factor into the equation that the DNR spent alot of dollars to get them there and they will not jump into a season until they become a problem and someone gets et.Plus there is a pretty strong population of people who want the wolves to be there(until one of them gets et).

Personally I wish they never would have reintroduced them there because it is just going to be a big mess when their populations get higher in the next 5 years.

How soon do you think it will be before they start an Elk season? lol

I just want to get up there next winter and get a few Yote's and a nice deer
 
http://nlrl.org/wolf_resources.htm

The above is a lenghty but good read on the after effects of wolf introduction in Yellowstone. Thought you might be interested in it from the aspect of what could happen in your area.
The portion of the article on Yellowstone was written by someone like me that lives year round in the environment that supports them. The story you hear from the people that truly live among them seem to be the same versus the social engineers who buy there way outdoors a few days a year and set on there urban easy chairs and try to shape the world the remainder of the year.
There most effective tactic even in Alaska has been going after the uneducated urban masses with ballot box biology.
 
I have beem talking to the DNR about the wolves,they wanted some info, about what calls that the wolves come to. i live near Rhinelander wisconsin. The DNR told me that they were thinking of opening wolf hunting and using calling,for one form of hunting them. I called in 6 wolves this year,using calls.
 
wisvarmint:
What type of caller and sounds were you using? Were the wolves you called in alone in small groups or an entire pack? Did they respond before coming to call or come in quiet? Did you know there were wolves in the area before you called and if so how far away would you estimate they were when you started calling. And finally how close were you able to get them?
 
4 of the wolves came in useing fawn in distress and coyotes fighting sounds,and the two others came in useing rabbet in ditress sounds. on three of the wolves i new they were in the area and the other 4 i had no clue they were there. 4 came in by them selves and the other 2 came in together.i have had them with in 50 yards of me and a few that were out around 90 to 100 yards.
 
I've been able to get entire packs to respond to a lone wolf howl and come in part way but have never come in all the way. We are somewhat limited on call selection because of no deer and the use of moose/rabbit/or any distress calls in the neighborhood of big growlers may qualify you for the Darwin award.
Looks like your experiences have been the same as mine in terms of singles and doubles being more responsive. I've also been told in heavy cover that just the two alpha's from a pack will come all the way in. There have been times with bad tracking conditions that I wondered if there had been more than what I saw.
Thanks for your response
 
I've called some in here in Wisconsin using the ELK Power Howler and a Cronk cow horn howler. I was hunting one night with Blak Coyote and we got one to come in after some yotes gave us a hard time and he was using his Tally Ho. It was about 1 AM.
 
How does the DNR feel about the wolves eating all the elk they tried so hard to re-introduce in northern Wisconsin? Wolves don't eat the sick and weak elk. They eat the bulls because the bulls will stay and fight where the cows and calves will run. The bulls are easier to kill because the wolves don't have to chase them. My guess is that there already is wolf hunting in N Wi. It's just not legal yet.

Fast Ed
 
Yea I think you are right and I heard a story from a guy I know that hunts in Northern WI for deer and 12 of the guys at his hunting camp didn't see a deer opening weekend. Wolves got anything to do with that?

Adam
 
Well I will tell ya 5 years ago their were not the wolves their are now I would say home range's are growing and as well as pack's and their size I live about 20 mile's south of ashland on the edge of the hill's and I cover more ground in one year than most do in 10 year's from the hill's to the farm ground scouting for my deer hunting client's and every time I find wolf crap it is solid deer hair I find a lot of yearling fawn's eat up in the late winter and early spring and their are not the beaver their were 5 year's ago either I have even cut wolf track's behind my house not 2 hundred yd's away! so yea as coyotecaller said I know of other camp's who have not shot [beeep]! for two year's I had to move out of one of my best trophy area's because of them dam thing's had them deer so rillded up you could not get a pattern! They found one 2 mile's away this fall in a field shot thur the gut's dead so they called in the dnr and don't know happend after that but somebody should get a free round at the local watering hole for that so yes all and all their are to many wolf's will the dnr or the fedral open a season in the next few year's ? who know's maybe they are going to have to do some thing about them! the genaral public will see to that and as far as them tree hugger's well throw them in their two!!!
 
What impresses me is the amount of hounds that are being lost to wolves. Was even an article in the Minneapolis paper a couple weeks back of the wolves tearing up a fellow's bird dog right in front of him while hunting grouse. Time to put so fear in them before they take someone out going out for the mail.
 
Yea they need a season on them but I think the DNR is to idiotic to do anything about it till somebody gets attacked or till they are running around like coyotes in a few years.

Adam
 
You want to know how far the Wisconsin wolf population is dispersing? How about all the way south to Missouri! A couple of years ago here a fellow was coming in from bowhunting deer when he spotted what he thought was either a large coyote or feral dog harrassing some of his sheep near the barnlot of his farm. He parked and snuck around the barn easing out and finding he was within bow range he shot the critter in the sheep pen. Upon recovering it he discovered an ear tag. Turns out it was a young male from Wisconsin that had been tagged a few years earlier.
 
The wolf population in Wisconsin is a drop in the bucket compared to Minnesota.I am not sure why anyone ( the Wis DNR)in their right mind would introduce the wolves into an area that has a booming tourist economy consisting of a large population of people who are not from the area and are generally clueless to the danger that a wolf pack might present, but my guess is when the first kid at summer camp at lake watchcallit gets ate by a pack of wolves, there will be alot of for sale signs from the yuppies from Chicago, Milwaukee and Minneapolis trying to sell the lake front cabin and get back to the suburbs where it is safe.The elk intro was unwise too as far as I am concerned.
 
We've had two killed in western Waukesha Co, just west of Milwaukee by cars. I wonder if those people were fined? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
 
They only way anyone would be fined for killing a wolf is if intent was shown to do it. Vehicle crashes cant be avoided when it comes to wildlife.

As far as the deer population in Northern WI. More deer are killed by Native Americans with there 5 month open rifle deer season than wolves. I hunt Douglas County and see an occasional wolf or coyote every year. I see pickup loads of Indian Hunters slaughtering deer. Loaded uncased guns, elevated seats in pickup trucks. I also see deer drives with 50 to 100 people driving HUGE tracks of land in the Namequoken(sp?)Barrens near Wascott. MANY deer are shot and left behind because they are too small. Those are gobbled up by yotes and wolves. This year opening weekend I saw 1 does and a few fawns. No legal bucks..... and 7 pointer shot in my family. 25 years ago when I started hunting 100 deer a day was the norm..... Now your lucky to see 10 in a season. That is not from wolf impact.
You cant tell me it does not happen. I have also been threatened to "stay the hell out of their way" because I was hunting their land. Hunters in N. WI need to come together on this issue, if not this will happen in your back yard next. Its only a matter of time. When the deer are gone they will move looking for more. Its happening already.
Ya, I can find other places to hunt. But like most its family tradition to hunt this area. My dad started hunting these public lands in 1962.

But start to ask where the good walleye fishing is. Trophy fish are rare....why....you cant spear the breeding stock for years and expect to have anything left. Thats exactly what has happened.
Dont get me wrong. I think Nat. Amer. should have the rights to hunt and fish in the same ways as their anscestors and follow our seasons with contemporary weapons. The arguement is it is their heritage. But the fore fathers used what they harvested and did not rape the land.
I know this is somewhat off the subject in hand. But the wolves are being blamed for more deer being killed. If the slaughter was stopped there would be plenty of deer in N. WI.

Huckster
 
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Yea they need a season on them but I think the DNR is to idiotic to do anything about it till somebody gets attacked or till they are running around like coyotes in a few years.

Adam



Adam,
yes there are alot of wolves down there, but there are also alot of black bears. I am not sure if you know it or not but black bears kill alot of fawns and calfs. Up here in alaska they have killing moose calfs down to a science. As far as wolf attacks on humans, I would be more afraid of a coyote than a wolf. I do believe there are more documented coyote attacks on humans than wolf attacks. Not very many documented wolf attacks on record. Last report I saw I think had 40or 50 cases. In most of them it was more of an encounter than an attack.
 
There has been some big problems with wolves eating beef calves in the northern 1/3 of Wisconsin for at least 7 or 8 years now.
 
My brother in law lives between Ashland and Iron River. I'll have to ask him at Christmas what the population of both Deer and Wolves is doing where he lives. I was going to go deer hunting up there this year but my schedule got too busy.
 


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