An unknown dead pile!

hunt0168

hunt0168

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I made a set a few weeks back where I had coyotes answer but not come in. I blamed it on the deep snow and the coyotes being across a wide creek that cuts through the woods. I called it again a few nights ago from the other side of the creek from a different location. Again, I had coyotes answer but I couldn't pull them from the cover of the woods. Yesterday I spoke to the farmer to ask if there was a place that I could park my vehicle to head in from a direction that I had never entered before. Through some small talk I mentioned what I was experiencing and from where. He asked why I didn't just hunt the deadpile? Well for the last few years I know the deadpile location is really tough to hunt and it was nowhere near where I was getting responses. He told me that because of the insane snow we have had this year that he couldn't get to the old spot and started dumping in a new spot. Well wouldn't you know that the new spot is literally right where I have been getting responses. WTH!

Deep snow is reason enough for coyotes not to show themselves. Deep snow, heavy cover and a couple dead heifers to chew on kind of puts the odds against me even further! Lol... I say again... WTH! :ROFLMAO:
 
Dead piles can be an issue if your not hunting at night. But coyote will leave a dead cow to check out the "coyote" nearby. Challenge, group sounds, pup cry. I setup several hundred yards away, taking no chance of being heard,seen or smelled. Sometimes they take awhile to leave the supper table, I have sat more than 1 hour if I hear them at the pile. A warm blind within shooting range would be my preference. Calling can bring them in early, before dark if the dead pile is in a quiet location.
 
spotstalkshoot said:
Dead piles can be an issue if your not hunting at night. But coyote will leave a dead cow to check out the "coyote" nearby. Challenge, group sounds, pup cry. I setup several hundred yards away, taking no chance of being heard,seen or smelled. Sometimes they take awhile to leave the supper table, I have sat more than 1 hour if I hear them at the pile. A warm blind within shooting range would be my preference. Calling can bring them in early, before dark if the dead pile is in a quiet location.
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These coyotes haven’t. They’ve vocalized twice now and haven’t committed. Like I mentioned, there ate other contributing factors at play. I’ve not laid eyes on the exact location of the pile as of yet and with the conditions I know it won’t be possible to sneak in. And they sure aren’t showing up in the open around here. Conditions gotta flip sooner or later. Sooner I hope! Only have until the end of March here to get after them.
 
hunt0168 said:
Thaw??? Refresh my memory… Is that when the snow melts away? I forget.
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Bob
We had over a foot Sunday into Monday. State of emergency for NY & NJ.
Today is in the high 40s. Melting all over, I can even see the ground on my neighbor's place.
I need some more melt in the Poconos, so the crunching snow doesn't sound the alarm.
But don't worry we have another storm forecast this weekend!
This is my third year with no success. At my age I'm just worried I might check out before I get a shot!!!
Soup
 
soup said:
Bob
We had over a foot Sunday into Monday. State of emergency for NY & NJ.
Today is in the high 40s. Melting all over, I can even see the ground on my neighbor's place.
I need some more melt in the Poconos, so the crunching snow doesn't sound the alarm.
But don't worry we have another storm forecast this weekend!
This is my third year with no success. At my age I'm just worried I might check out before I get a shot!!!
Soup
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Just peeked out the door at work, Bill. Melting away to nothing out there!
 
I only hunt bait piles when there are many coyote coming in regularly.
I do some recon and with the snow it's easy to find their trails to and from the bait to ambush them away from the pile so the bait doesn't lose it's allure to the other coyote visiting.
When food is scarce coyote will become very protective of a ready and reliable food source, but will starve if that food source isn't safe.
SJC
 
Just wonderin if any of you fellas have tried skis. Decades ago, I did a little x-country skiing and though not easy, it was just a 'swoosh/swoosh'-almost silent. You would have to carry all on your back but just might get you out some. I would not want to do it at 75 on some of the terrain I hunt but would try it on some.
It was easier than show shoes.
 
jmeddy said:
Just wonderin if any of you fellas have tried skis. Decades ago, I did a little x-country skiing and though not easy, it was just a 'swoosh/swoosh'-almost silent. You would have to carry all on your back but just might get you out some. I would not want to do it at 75 on some of the terrain I hunt but would try it on some.
It was easier than show shoes.
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I’ve never been on skis Mike. Had a few seasons of snowboarding under my belt, but that won’t help. AWS has suggested skiing as a viable solution in the past, but I haven’t tried it.
 
Since I sat at a bait about 7/10 mile from a dead Holstein last night, I'll post here. I went in about 7:45 last night, good moon that allowed me to see over 1/2 mile with my Steiner M/M 7x50 binos. I saw the first one while walking in, it was only 50-60 yards from the blind. When I left the truck, I told myself the snow is so noisy no way to walk within 300 yards of a coyote. Correct at about 350 the coyote moved off to east, I'm west of the blind. Wind switching from SW to S about 9pm. Setting up in the blind, I figured 2-2.5 hrs the coyote may return. At 9:30 I tried pup distress for 15-20 secs. About 10:30 I see movement, its a coyote near where I saw it walking in. I decided to open up and get the rifle ready, before the coyote went to the deer carcass. The coyote suddenly moved off to the east again. I tried mouse squeaks, but it kept looking west and my direction. Finally it went back into the trees east of me. A few minutes after it disappeared, I tried 2 challenge howls. About 11:15 pm phone vibes, picture at the bait. I open up window, see 2 coyote near the deer 140 yards away. Gun out thermal on as I watch them one runs the other off. It passes in front of me at about 100 yards but will not stop for lip squeaks. It heads east toward the trees. As I watch the one trying to pull a bite off the carcass, I see 2 crossing the field headed towards the holstein. Finally get a still slightly quartering shot. 10 minutes after shooting I tried challenge howls again trying to get the other 2 headed my way. I stayed until almost 1 am. Then drove over by the cattle lot and saw 2 coyote laying on a round hay bale stack south of the lot. No way for a shot so headed home, need a plan for the ones that wouldn't leave the holstein.
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I would teach that famer a lesson about moving bait piles on me and I wouldn't hunt there no more. Now where exactly did you say he moved it to? lololol
 
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