This is crazy, data center boom

steve garrett said:
funny story the hoopla about "data centers" is that somehow they are new. There has been data centers for a long time. 25 years ago I was at a "data center" in west jordan, UT I was called out because the fire suppression system blew up the building. to this day I still consider this one of the most hilarious jobs I have ever been on. The place was guarded like military installation complete with a guard tower, concertina wire on the fence, armed guards, ETC it was probably one of the most secure places I have been. Inside was offices in the front that had windows looking out into a large room area of about 100x100 feet that had main frame computers over a false floor that had heavy tiles you could pull up and access all the wireing under that included an HVAC system to cool the main frames. These offices are what you might imagine looking into a room with a nuclear reactor on the other side. In the back was about 80-100 welding tanks, full size ones all hooked up with braided high pressure steel lines and flare fittings to a central plumbing system. This was the halon fire system.

to make a long story short someone was working on the HVAC system under the floor tiles and leaked some freon. this caused a lack of oxygen sensor to trip. ALL 80 ish welding tanks dumped Halon ALL AT ONCE!!! I am laughing my ass off as I type this. This caused the entire wall seperating the large room from the offices to be blown over, all the glass blown out. The front doors were blown out and glass blown out into the parking lot. ceiling tiles were blasted everywhere, glass was blasted out all over the place inside. In what was supposed to be the most secure data storage site. A safety feature of the facility was far more of a threat than anyone trying to break into the building. I always thought the security stuff was just a dog and pony show for the company there to claim how secure it was. That is however what made the explosion of halon that much more hilarious.
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gotta love engineers!!
 
DAA said:
This. Or fewer, large ones, that are on the grid. It's time to revisit nuclear power plants.

- DAA
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been dipping down that rabbit hole lately a bit...
but there are a half dozen companies working right now on commercializing micro reactors.

think something the size of a shipping container. scaleable as needed - just add more shipping container to meet your needs.

typical micro reactor like this can run a town about the size of gaylord, mi - give or take a bit. the figure is ~5k households, or several thousand households + non residential properties that support them.

it would take about 4-5 of them to run the township i live in with ~18k homes.

seirously - you could park a half dozen of these in the back of the walmart parking lot, put a big yellow sunburst on them, and 95% of the id10t's out there wouldnt be the wiser.

runtime is 5-10 years without any refueling.
 
Micro reactor would make sense depending on feasibility, which will need a dedicated separate water source. Which is mostly why I'm in favor of building the data center on old closed out Military site that have a super fund site. One example that come to mind is Ft McClellan. But there are a lot of old sites forts/bases and a government abandoned air strips.
 
Plant.One said:
been dipping down that rabbit hole lately a bit...
but there are a half dozen companies working right now on commercializing micro reactors.

think something the size of a shipping container. scaleable as needed - just add more shipping container to meet your needs.

typical micro reactor like this can run a town about the size of gaylord, mi - give or take a bit. the figure is ~5k households, or several thousand households + non residential properties that support them.

it would take about 4-5 of them to run the township i live in with ~18k homes.

seirously - you could park a half dozen of these in the back of the walmart parking lot, put a big yellow sunburst on them, and 95% of the id10t's out there wouldnt be the wiser.

runtime is 5-10 years without any refueling.
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Keep in mind though. The hyperscaling centers use enormous amounts of electricity. The new one proposed in Utah will use more than twice as much electricity as the entire state of Utah does now.

- DAA
 
DAA said:
Keep in mind though. The hyperscaling centers use enormous amounts of electricity. The new one proposed in Utah will use more than twice as much electricity as the entire state of Utah does now.

- DAA
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I think they should consider repurposing some old mines underground to the nuke stuff, that way you just bury it when the shit hits the fan. I didn't know utah had enough power to increase the demand by 200%. makes me think we need a discount on the power bill.
 
The proposed plan is to generate all new power on site. Using natural gas. Utah doesn’t have anything close to that capacity.

- DAA
 
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Sgt_Mike said:
Micro reactor would make sense depending on feasibility, which will need a dedicated separate water source. Which is mostly why I'm in favor of building the data center on old closed out Military site that have a super fund site. One example that come to mind is Ft McClellan. But there are a lot of old sites forts/bases and a government abandoned air strips.
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from what i've read - they use fully contained cooling systems... think... heat pump -but obivously a bit more sophisticated. they dont need a water source to cool themselves.

thats ones of the beauty's of the system tbh. they can literally be dropped anywehre, with nearly zero regard for existing infrastructure, or availability of natural resources to run them.
 
Stu Farish said:
SpaceX alone is going to have $2.4 trillion in datacenters. There's some real money in this
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We’re building data centers that can power small cities. AI can write code, generate movies, track behavior, and digest most of the internet. We can land rovers on Mars, spot a thermal signature from miles away, and train models at global scale.

Yet my phone still rings fifteen times a day because “the warranty on my vehicle is about to expire.”

It’s hard not to wonder how we’re racing toward artificial superintelligence while still losing the war against robocalls.

Maybe it’s not that we can’t solve it.

Maybe it’s that nobody gets rich solving it.

:alien:
 
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So much for AI.
 
Infidel 762 said:
We’re building data centers that can power small cities. AI can write code, generate movies, track behavior, and digest most of the internet. We can land rovers on Mars, spot a thermal signature from miles away, and train models at global scale.

Yet my phone still rings fifteen times a day because “the warranty on my vehicle is about to expire.”

It’s hard not to wonder how we’re racing toward artificial superintelligence while still losing the war against robocalls.

Maybe it’s not that we can’t solve it.

Maybe it’s that nobody gets rich solving it.

:alien:
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Just like the cure for cancer !
 
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