Tentative 60-Day Iran Ceasefire Deal Reached, Pending Trump’s Approval

A lot of people see criticism like this as being un-American, rooting for Iran, or being liberal. I don’t. I give a damn about this country, and that’s exactly why it infuriates me to watch us make decisions, then get fed a different story every time we dig ourselves deeper.

Perception matters. You can bet our enemies are watching closely, trying to figure out exactly how far we can be pushed before we start adjusting the story instead of the strategy. Resolve isn’t just about what you do—it’s about what you’re willing to tolerate.

Think about where we were before February 27. If Iran had closed the Strait by attacking commercial shipping, there would have been overwhelming support for a military response, likely with allies standing beside us. The idea that the response would be reopening it for 60 days in exchange for lifting sanctions—and then letting Iran and Oman decide how to administer it—would have sounded absurd a few months ago.

A month ago, we were told Iranian oil exports had to be blocked because that money could replenish missile stockpiles and fund proxies. Today we’re told not to worry, under this arrangement the money will go toward food—and even American corn instead.

The policy may have changed with circumstances. That happens. What really changed is the story we’re being told.
 
popper43 said:
"To the average person, we are losing and losing big." according to CNN, MSN and the rest of the media. But the world soccer games stadiums are FULL, stores are still open and FULL. Hiways are FULL. Bars run out of booze, etc.
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Economically we are loosing, from jobs to inflation and everything else in between, we have 4 weeks of oil left. let that sink in. If you dont have fuel and oil stocked up you need your head examined.
 
Gee, I was in Pasadena Sat and tanks looked pretty full, clouds of gas above the refineries (so they're processing). Must be 5-6 refinery stations within 3 sq miles and several tank car sidings.
 
crapshoot said:
Sometimes it may just be how it is presented or the frequency of which it is presented or maybe both.
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Nah, it is what it is. Presentation or tone doesn’t change reality. Frequency might affect how people react to it, sure, but it doesn’t change what’s actually true. The same crowd that used to say “f your feelings” and mock “safe spaces” shouldn’t suddenly act like delivery decides facts over reality.
 
“If this passes, the Iranians are going to simply stand up and walk away from negotiations. They’re going to say, ‘This thing’s over, that Congress has told the President of the United States leave us alone. We can do whatever we want to do,’ and they will walk away.”
Senate passes bill to limit Trump's 'war Powers' in Iran. I agree with the above statement. Congress trying to get involved with the 'negotiations.' We'll see how well that works out. Badly I suspect. Pols have to have their spotlight time.
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Infidel 762 said:
Care to debunk it?

Let’s see what ya got to defend this bs.
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Nope. Ain't gonna even try. I don't follow politics like you apparently do , and CERTAINLY don't have the the inside information you seem to possess.

Overall, Trump is a GREAT president and you spewing your hatred for him doenst change my mind one bit.
 
I'd say descent but wouldn't go as far as great. Most everything he's done has been by executive order and will be undone as soon as a democrat or anyone who doesn't agree gets put in.
Not quite the same as having the backing of the houses to get actual lasting changes that will stick passed.

This fiasco with this war and Isreal in specific has shown a side im not to fond of and shows what exactly Adelsons donation really paid for.

Still better than any democrat that would have been elected and the republican party continues to NOT provide a really GOOD candidate to vote for. But given the same options i was given, I'd vote for him again simply due to the lesser of 2 evils.
 
borkon said:
Nope. Ain't gonna even try. I don't follow politics like you apparently do , and CERTAINLY don't have the the inside information you seem to possess.

Overall, Trump is a GREAT president and you spewing your hatred for him doenst change my mind one bit.
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You don't need "inside information." Everything I referenced is public record, directly from Trump's own mouth or his Truth Social posts. You admitted you don't follow politics, yet you're certain he's a great president. That explains why you defended the man instead of addressing the facts.
 
Personally, I'd rather our President get on TV and tell us that we underestimated the enemy and are having to restrategize than telling us BS conflicting stories every other day. A lot of people that have never supported Trump may not have supported him, but they respected him because he was known for doing what he said he was going to do. The whole Iran thing has really put a hurting on that.
 
Also something to look at is that Trump can't run again so this mess isn't hurting him, it's hurting Vance, Rubo, or whoever makes the next ticket. I don't know if we can make it through a 8 year democrat stretch.
 
Infidel 762 said:
A lot of people see criticism like this as being un-American, rooting for Iran, or being liberal. I don’t. I give a damn about this country, and that’s exactly why it infuriates me to watch us make decisions, then get fed a different story every time we dig ourselves deeper.

Perception matters. You can bet our enemies are watching closely, trying to figure out exactly how far we can be pushed before we start adjusting the story instead of the strategy. Resolve isn’t just about what you do—it’s about what you’re willing to tolerate.

Think about where we were before February 27. If Iran had closed the Strait by attacking commercial shipping, there would have been overwhelming support for a military response, likely with allies standing beside us. The idea that the response would be reopening it for 60 days in exchange for lifting sanctions—and then letting Iran and Oman decide how to administer it—would have sounded absurd a few months ago.

A month ago, we were told Iranian oil exports had to be blocked because that money could replenish missile stockpiles and fund proxies. Today we’re told not to worry, under this arrangement the money will go toward food—and even American corn instead.

The policy may have changed with circumstances. That happens. What really changed is the story we’re being told.
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like I said 6 months ago if this outcome was seen as the future agreement. it would have been thought that Iran had set off a nuke of their own somewhere. We lost the war, pure and simple. Short of a ground invasion which everyone knows isn't going to happen, we can't win against Iran. The fear of the unknown consequence for Iran was what kept things more stable in the region. Those fears are no longer the case. What are we gonna do about it seriously? we will run out of bombs trying to teach them a lesson. a few drones launched from a random place in Iran can hit ships in the Strait. The genie has been let out of the bottle.

I think Trump realized that if this kept going shit was really going to hit the fan in ways that could really cripple the economy. Oil tanks were about to totally run dry. Even things like oil base stocks for motor oils were about to experience massive shortages. auto parts stores, car manufacturers were already warning about needing to substitute certain oils to just get by. Lines at the gas pump was going to be next. I said it was a mistake in the beginning to start the war and people mocked me and made fun of me and accused me of being anti maga. i left another forum over it. fortunately the crowd over here is at least smart enough to see through the bull shit. TDS works both ways for the left and the right. for the right its that Trump can do no wrong and plays 5 d chess.

long term it may be a good thing that people quit poking Iran in the eye. if we can just start doing business in their economy. thats the path to influence them. Sanctions are a joke and serve only to prop up their own insular industries internally .
 
I'm so sick of hearing, "They have no navy. They have no air force. Their missiles are... blah, blah, blah." None of the insurgent groups we've spent the last half century fighting had those things either, and we still couldn't completely stamp them out. Iran isn't just another insurgency, either. They have a large conventional military on top of the IRGC, other security forces, and whatever radicals would pour into the country to fight what they'd see as a holy war if we invaded.

I was actually hopeful Iran would look at the financial concessions in the MOU, call it a win, and start over. Instead, all the sanctions relief and promised money isn't enough. From their perspective, we killed the Ayatollah's father, and now we're trying to buy them off. I don't think it's a matter of us losing, right now it is a matter of how bad we will, cause its not over...
 
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