Time to pay the band

Sgt_Mike

Sgt_Mike

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Ok just sharing a bit what I find a bit of amusing.

I think everyone know the wife drives a Jeep, me a 3500 dually so just throwing that out there in case folks don't know, or forgot.

Tires are due on both!!!! Nah not a woe is me tale, rather the thing that is funny.
When I got the dually years ago the wife spoke of how expensive the tires would be and was convinced of financial ruin. Why? she states two more tires, I looked at her and was like "B.S."
so the dually had new tires on the steers and about 50% tread wear on the rear when I bought it. Fast forward to today ( this is after 5 years we paid off the truck BEFORE needing tires), the Jeep has went through three sets, now the 4th set is due.
I mention that I need to put some new tires on the rear she loses her mind (bear in mind my steers still have about 50-to 60 % + tread life so I'm talking 4 tires) again she is like OMG the ruin, the cost. I look at her like she is AOC on the campaign trail. And go HUH??? What?? Really???

OK woman time for a education, get in the truck, keep mouth shut and just go to the tire shop with me.
So we price her tires first (yeah hers are soon due again as I stated). $1300.00 for a set, bear in mind these are not the off road etc etc but the same tires when brand new off the show room (she doesn't 4WD, and drives asphalt). The exact ones that most Jeep folks get rid of when they buy a Jeep. So not the actual expensive ones.

Now for pricing mine the 4 tires for the rear $1100.00, now I look at her and say ok your Jeep has went through 3 and soon to be 4 sets, which equates to $5200.00, mine is $1,100.0 so please tell me how dual's are way more expensive, even if I say buy two more within 6 months to change out the steers???

Normal female response the absolute quiet is deafening.

Now I well admit freely that when I ordered the 4 rear I screwed up and got Toyo's and didn't recall that steers are Hankooks, which I should have bought so I could have thrown the steers into the inner rears to even out the wear. meaning new steers, and new on the outer duals. So yeah I lost my rotation with the differing brands and will most likely have to buy another two to get them on rotation schedule, that is to setup for a more even wear across the set.

The result is peace and quiet... it's been a week.
 
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the other one thing that causes me to go errrp huh?
Is looking through FB market place guy has a 16 ft gooseneck trailer for sale ready to work, and then states bring flat bed trailer....... (sorry find that amusing as daylights, and exactly why can't ya just hook up and drive away :unsure: :unsure: :unsure: )
 
Now if that dually is a diesel, lets talk simple maintenance (oil & filter, fuel filters, etc)
I have a f350 srw 6.7l diesel, a 4 runner, and the wifes avalon. The diesel maintenance is easilly double the others on oil alone.
 
jmeddy said:
seeing pics of your jeep I think she is just trying to keep up ;)
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There is some truth to that. My Jeep is 20 years old, from before they made four doors. Her's is a current model "JL" four door. With a decently longer wheelbase than mine. Mine is on 35's and for reasons mostly pertaining to range and reliability, I have no intention of ever going bigger on it (unless an LS slips in under the hood...).

Her Jeep does get legitimately wheeled once in awhile. Like, really legit wheeling. That longer wheelbase is an asset in some situations. But the break over angle suffers and sometimes that is a real problem. We've had it high centered on big rocks and needed to use the winch a handful of times. Even on 37's it still doesn't have as good a break over angle as mine, but it's closer. And it will definitely make a difference when wheeling it. If she could drive like me, it could pretty much keep up with me now. And in some situations get further.

- DAA
 
DAA said:
$1300 sounds dreamy.
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LOL,,, yep Like I said she doesn't do 4x4 offroad and her jeep is a asphalt queen, and trust me I do know what true off road tires cost. If I set either the Jeep or the dually up for true off road, yeah soft compounds that wear like crazy on the pavement. But like I said driving wise for her deal factory compound and sizes it is. (but then again I do have 2 sets of rims for her 's so yeah I could do Highway and off road sets for hers). in no way am I griping about what her tire cost is.
crapshoot said:
Now if that dually is a diesel, lets talk simple maintenance (oil & filter, fuel filters, etc)
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Hmm ok I have the 2014 3500 in 6.4L gasser interval is 8000 miles, 7 qts of 0-40W synthetic, so at the dealer starts at $160.00 , do it myself around $100.00 usually $125.00 in just oil plus the filter $15.00... so $140.00

The 6.7L cummins interval 15,000 miles, 12 qts of 15-40 or 5-40 synthetic roughly $90.00 for 12 qts of Rotella 15-40W. Oil filter roughly $20.00 (so about $110.00)
6.7L cummins fuel filters (2 up in engine and the fuel water separator near the tank) so about $100.00 . so bear in mind at the 15000 mile interval the 6.7L is $210.00, compared to the gasser which will take 2 oil changes at $140.00 ea meaning $280.00 to cover the 15,000 mile interval . Yeah I think the diesel wins here.
Fuel cost:
my Gasser 6.4L hemi 14 MPG combined @ $3.43 gallon (1000 mile trip $428.75)
If I had gotten the 6.7L Cummins roughly 17 to 22 MPG @ $4.77 tp $4.95 gallon ( calculating the worst at 17mpg same 1000 miles , $291.18), which I would not have bought a Cummins that needed DEF.

And honestly at the time I bought the truck I thought the same that the oil and fuel filter cost was simply prohibitive. What I honestly didn't think of was the interval of the oil change.
But that is not what actually deterred me from the diesel it was the double the sticker cost vs the gasser. Plus the diesel is capable of 300,000 miles on the engine (notice I didn't mention the transmission), the gasser about 200,000. Had I to do all over yeah she would be the cummins diesel.
 
That 15,000 interval will get you past warranty. I'd cut that in half if you want some longevity out of that motor. Just personal opinion observation after watching a few dozen videos from Dave's Automotive.
 
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Sgt_Mike said:
the other one thing that causes me to go errrp huh?
Is looking through FB market place guy has a 16 ft gooseneck trailer for sale ready to work, and then states bring flat bed trailer....... (sorry find that amusing as daylights, and exactly why can't ya just hook up and drive away :unsure: :unsure: :unsure: )
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"runs and drives, nothing needed, drove it to <destination whereever> just last week!"

"bring something to haul it with, trans slipping, needs tires, and probably a cam, but it could also just be a tuneup"

smdh
 
crapshoot said:
That 15,000 interval will get you past warranty. I'd cut that in half if you want some longevity out of that motor. Just personal opinion observation after watching a few dozen videos from Dave's Automotove.
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I won't disagree but if I recall correctly and most likely not the best idea. but that is actually by Cummins, not dodge for when to change the oil.
Internationals such as what is in Ford's I "think" or have heard the interval is lower than 15,000. Don't recall exactly what it was listed as. Don't own one for no other reason than I simply don't. Even though I do like the Super Duty body style of certain years. So no hating of Fords, Chevy's or Dodge from me. but even if one did cut the oil changes down to say 10,000 miles in the long run it would still be pretty close to the 6.4L 392cu in Hemi. which what causes the price to be so dang expensive is that 0-40W synthetic oil requirement.

I simply chose the cummins as it is in alignment with what I currently own as the other option within their offering.
I do know that USUALLY the Cummins and the Power Strokes will go through two transmissions before the engine really starts giving trouble as a rule.
and yeah I have looked and seen several Ford 6.X to 7.X powerstrokes on the used market pretty cheap. And have considered them for a second vehicle where I think the cummins is better than the others are in the no glow plugs rather a grid heater which sometimes is just as problematic as the glow plugs. so yeah it's not a brand war

(I simply hate pulling glow plugs when they are frozen or broke, so yeah that is why I lean the way I do)
 
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LMAO sometimes very true. But Guys I literally am being honest I don't know how that JEEP is still running. Then again if it hiccups I do fix or get it fixed as it's the wife's vehicle.
 
I just put $600 tires on my old 12 valve, but I'm cheap lol. Tires I put on my wifes short bed 4WD Chevy are factory tires off the rear of a Chevy dually, they were free. That truck doesnt need E rated tires but free is free, they mounted up easy. I'v changed more tires by hand than I can count.
 
I put injectors in a buddies JK about a month ago. Plugs too while I had the intake plenum out of the way. Was glad a bad injector is all it was. When I started diagnosing I was afraid it was going to be rocker arms, which are a pretty common failure on these 3.6's. And a significantly larger PITA to swap out. The injectors are a pretty easy job.

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- DAA
 
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