Changing calls during a stand

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Jheibel81

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New to calling. Went on 3 different nights in last week. First night I did call one inn on my fox pro with pup whimpers. Second time, didn’t call any on 2 stands. And than tonight did not on one stand. My question was, I use both hand and electronic callers. So, would it make sense to use both during the same stand? Do ppl normally change calls if not getting responses? Example if, say, bird distress not doing nothing to change to coyote yelps. Or vice verse. Thanks
 
I have not used one sound on a stand since I quit using cassette tape e-callers over 20 years ago.

I change sounds and volume on every calling stand I make. After calling for 10 minutes or so I like to switch to a very loud sound on full volume for about 1 minute and then lower the volume back down to about 1/2 or 3/4 volume. Many times we have a coyote show up within 5 to 10 minutes after playing a loud sound on full volume.

Coyotes are not always in a perfect spot to hear your sounds. So playing louder sounds at a higher volume for a minute or two will give you a better chance of getting a coyote or coyotes to hear your sounds.
 
I generally follow the Randy Anderson method: Start with some howls, then go to prey distress, end with coyote distress, about 5-10 min each, and with some silence in between. Volume up and down during prey and coyote distress.
I don't always stick to that sequence strictly, as the situation often dictates what to use, but some variation of that has been successful for a lot of coyote hunters.
 
Good advice so far.

I'll add that I change sounds on the same stand multiple times.

My 3 handcalls are a Sceery Cottontail, Primos Jackrabbit, and a Weems Cottontail.

The Weems is a wood-barreled call, and it produces a noticeably different sound than the Sceery, even though both are 'Cottontail".
 
I've got four presets I typically use.
1st is a lighter squeaker style I start with, in case something is close.
Then each after is a touch louder, generally 5-10 minutes each, depending.
Sometimes I start with howls, other times not, I might end with coyote distress, I might skip the light call at the beginning, depending on wind or terrain.
Other times at the end, I'll fiddle around with other sounds.
 
Depending on terrain and how far I can see, if tight, I start with low volume rabbit or bird or 'some off the wall prey' for 3-4min. ramping up after a couple minutes. Might run 2-3 of these depending on the time of year.
If visibility is ~150y+ I start with Lone howls, then 2-5 min of silence. Next might come a different howl or prey followed by a different prey then more quiet. Might be a pr howl &/or a fight (adult or pup) or 3 next. Sometimes I will quit calling after the fight and other times I kiyi or a pup distress. I always end sets with 10-15 min of silence (more if I have had a response within what I consider in "range". Many have died in this silent ending!
Lots of time social sounds are used to start or added in after the howls or fights are used to start-just depends on "my mood".
I predominately night hunt the broken hills of SW PA.
 
SupressYourself said:
I generally follow the Randy Anderson method: Start with some howls, then go to prey distress, end with coyote distress, about 5-10 min each, and with some silence in between. Volume up and down during prey and coyote distress.
I don't always stick to that sequence strictly, as the situation often dictates what to use, but some variation of that has been successful for a lot of coyote hunters.
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you arent suggesting to howl for 5 to 10 minutes...right ?

sometimes my reading comprehension is off. :)
 
I'm a coyote vocal heavy caller. Just seems to produce better in my area as I know my "competition" beats the hell out of distress. I do run distress sounds as well, just a bit more sparingly.

Yes... Switch sounds on the same stand. Frequently if you want to as finding the trigger sound is often the name of the game. I love doing this when I have one in sight but it isn't committing. Throw the book at them and watch their reactions.

I have a loose routine that changes a little throughout the season. When it isn't working you can bet I'll be digging for different sounds, different pitches, different cadences in an attempt to trigger something.

Good luck!
 
we watched a coyote jump up onto a round hay bale, curl up and lay down. it stayed curled up and laying there while we called. it just didnt want to talk it just wasnt interested until we got a live coyote from off in the distance to reply.

the one on the hay bale, got up and started howling back, when the live one stopped so did it, and it layed back down and continued to ignore us.

limbhanger10 put on a stalk, then for no reason, it jumped down off the hay bale and headed limbhangers way and thats where it died :)

you just never know, whats going to trigger a response. thats not the first time we've seen them out in the open where they refused to participate in our hunt :)
 
stay at least 30 to 40 minutes. we have stayed LONG on stands where we get replies and they start coming in. one time we got one lone howl, just inside the tree line, then the coyote went quiet, so did we.

65 minutes later 3 coyotes walk out into the field, we let them come in close and all 3 died in that field.
 
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