1000yrd. gun?????????????????

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Is the 6.5x284 a long action cartridge? If it is why not go with the 6.5x06 for an additional 200fps?



The 6.5x284 is a short action round. If you're a short action guy, that is a VERY good round, along with the 25x284, another very good shooter.
I have a straight 284 in a heavy barreled rifle that might work too. It's just a small step below the 7mm Mag.

Martyn
 
There are 3 major factors in the ability to shoot at 1,000 yards(for rifle selection).

I would list them as quality of firearm. Quality of optics. And quality of mounting system. Caliber choice can be important but is basically secondary to shooting at 1,000 yards.

The 6.5 caliber or .264 is the new kid in town. However any caliber above this caliber is more than capable of long distance shooting. Then the higher you go the better---IMO. It just depends on how recoil shy you are. And(or) how much money you have to spend.

I am a member at a 1,000 yard club(member, not competitor). There are several fellows shooting the 6.5x284. The guys like these cartridges a lot. There are also a lot of 7mm shooters, and 30 caliber shooters also. Some of the guys are now shooting the .338 variants---and they are a real beast.

My personal competancy distance is 600 yards. And I have several rifles that I am competant at that distance with. Including several cartridges. The newest one is a 22-250 with a 1in8 to shoot the 75 grain pill. The largest I use is a 300 WSM.

My next rifle is going to be a 338 Improved Lapua Magnum. However it wil be used for hunting at longer distances. However it will probably be a couple of more years before I fell competant at 1,000 yards........if ever.

There is a big difference between shooting at 1,000 yards, and being competent at all the distances in between. Or in other words a lot of rifles can be set up to hit at 1,000 yards, but would be worthless at 400,500 or 600 yards because of the limitations of the optics. Tom.
 
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There are 3 major factors in the ability to shoot at 1,000 yards(for rifle selection).

I would list them as quality of firearm. Quality of optics. And quality of mounting system. Tom.




Tom,

I agree with you on these points.....

[beeep] my .17hmr has Ken Farrell rings and bases with Nightforce optics on it.

I do believe i have this part covered. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Phil.
 
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Is the 6.5x284 a long action cartridge? If it is why not go with the 6.5x06 for an additional 200fps?



The 6.5x284 is a short action round. If you're a short action guy, that is a VERY good round, along with the 25x284, another very good shooter.
I have a straight 284 in a heavy barreled rifle that might work too. It's just a small step below the 7mm Mag.

Martyn



Yep the 284 will work in a short action, but for LR shooting it should be used in a long action so your not using up powder space using it for bullet storage because of mag box length. same goes for the 22/6mm AI.

The 284 win is an accurate platform, the short fat powder column is more efficient than an "06 based case, but with that reasoning why use a 6.5/06 when you can use a 6.5/06 AI and gain another 100 fps, for that matter why use a 6.5/06 AI when you can use a 6.5 Gibbs and gain another 150 fps, My Gibbs will run a 140 at 350 fps faster than the standard 2950 the 6.5/284 is ran for the best accuracy.
RR
 
All my reloading manuels list the 6.5x284 at 2700 with the 140's, that's why I was considering the 06' based cartridge which is listed at 2900?
 
It's all in practice, and homework.

Three months ago I thought that a 500y shot for me was impossible, but I did some homework(workin up loads, chronoing, checkin ballistic charts)

Once I found my optimum load, I shot it exclusivley, developed my MOA adj. for varying distances, and now I'm puchin holes in 1-gallon jugs at 500 yards! I hope to be hittin some 1000y shots in the near future with my run-of-mill ruger m77 mII in 270win.

I think any higher powered rifle is capable of 1000y with some practice and homework.
 
.338 Super Mag

My best,..so far.

shotgroup-1630yds.jpg
 
RR,

Actually, it was the #3 round.

We had shot 4 prior groups at around 14-15 inch groups, This was my last group firing three rounds back to back with about (estimated) 5-7 seconds between rounds. Evening conditions low humidity (little to no mirage) with low variable winds.

And Thank you! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
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.338 Super Mag

My best,..so far.

shotgroup-1630yds.jpg




Thats not a good group... Thats an outstanding group! Thats approaching .25 MOA at 1600 yards. Mighty fine!

Chupa
 
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RR,

Actually, it was the #3 round.

We had shot 4 prior groups at around 14-15 inch groups, This was my last group firing three rounds back to back with about (estimated) 5-7 seconds between rounds. Evening conditions low humidity (little to no mirage) with low variable winds.

And Thank you! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif



Ok, thanks, was just wondering, I have a 9 twist 4 groove .284 lilja that always drops the first shot a bit low, never shot 1600 yards but I'm getting there, took a doe last year at 1350.
RR
 
Thats some mighty fine shootin at nearly one mile Vapor! I have yet been able to hit anything at 1000 yards much less 1600! But I am working on it!
 
good god!!!!!!!!! that looks like my 400 yard groups /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif
 
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