My wife is going to buy me either a 10mm or 357 sig for Christmas. I'm trying to decide which one I want. It's going to be my all-purpose handgun. I'll use it for home defense, as well as carrying it in the field when I'm hunting. These two cartridges seem to be neck and neck as far as performance. I like the 10mm because it can crank out 200 gr. rounds, but the velocity of the 357 sig is amazing as well. What do yall think?
10mm or 357 sig?
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ColoradoOsprey
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Energy is the real difference in these 2 cartridges. If you look at full house load 10mm like it was intended they are not even in the same league. Most factory 10mm ammo is really light, and most factory .357 sig is really hot.
A G20 with 15+1 rounds and hits like a 41 Magnum is not bettered by anything other than a rifle.
10mm 180 grain at 1300f/sec or 675ft/lbs same as 41 mag.
155 grain at 1450f/sec or 733ft/lbs
357 sig 125 grain 1260f/sec or 520ft/lbs
(winchester load page on win's website)
That 155 grain 10mm load is just shy of a 44 mag load energy with a 200 grain bullet.(lightest for a 44 mag)
I am very partial to the 10mm, can you tell. I also have had a .357 sig and counldn't justify the price in ammo difference over a standard 40S&W. It is just a 40S&W necked down for lighter bullets. If I wanted a lighter bullet I'd shoot 9mm, they are cheap to shoot and I own a few of those.
Would I trust my life to a 9mm, no, I've been shot with one and I'm still here. 40S&W is the minimum I would bet my life on. Don't get me wrong, I like the .357 Sig, just not better than a 10mm. Oh yeah, the 10mm bites and barks harder than most auto handguns.
Look up the 1986 FBI shooting that prompted the developement of the ultimate handgun round, the 10mm. The only problem was the grip size and the recoil for smaller shooters. There hasn't been another round ever developed that proved better for personal defense. The developement of the 40S&W was just a smaller 10mm to reduce it's size and bite/bark.
A G20 with 15+1 rounds and hits like a 41 Magnum is not bettered by anything other than a rifle.
10mm 180 grain at 1300f/sec or 675ft/lbs same as 41 mag.
155 grain at 1450f/sec or 733ft/lbs
357 sig 125 grain 1260f/sec or 520ft/lbs
(winchester load page on win's website)
That 155 grain 10mm load is just shy of a 44 mag load energy with a 200 grain bullet.(lightest for a 44 mag)
I am very partial to the 10mm, can you tell. I also have had a .357 sig and counldn't justify the price in ammo difference over a standard 40S&W. It is just a 40S&W necked down for lighter bullets. If I wanted a lighter bullet I'd shoot 9mm, they are cheap to shoot and I own a few of those.
Would I trust my life to a 9mm, no, I've been shot with one and I'm still here. 40S&W is the minimum I would bet my life on. Don't get me wrong, I like the .357 Sig, just not better than a 10mm. Oh yeah, the 10mm bites and barks harder than most auto handguns.
Look up the 1986 FBI shooting that prompted the developement of the ultimate handgun round, the 10mm. The only problem was the grip size and the recoil for smaller shooters. There hasn't been another round ever developed that proved better for personal defense. The developement of the 40S&W was just a smaller 10mm to reduce it's size and bite/bark.
Skicat
I have been a fan of 10mm for many years. I carry a 10mm Glock G29 in a UCR holster while off the beaten path. It is small, light and a very versatile yet powerful carry piece.
The 10mm G20 is an excellent choice too. I agree wholeheartedly with ColoradoOsprey's comments.
Check out the 10 ring over on http://glocktalk.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=38
This forum should give you all the info you need on .357sig vs. 10mm
Excellent full power ammo is produced by Double Tap and you just can't beat the versatility of the 10mm with 135 gr. to 220 gr. loads, if you reload you can download to the 900 fps range for mild target practice or purchase factory loads such as American Eagle which has a new 180gr load running at about 1050 fps for a mild and inexpensive practice load.
The 10mm is the most versatile cartridge ever produced in a handgun. Check it out!
I have been a fan of 10mm for many years. I carry a 10mm Glock G29 in a UCR holster while off the beaten path. It is small, light and a very versatile yet powerful carry piece.
The 10mm G20 is an excellent choice too. I agree wholeheartedly with ColoradoOsprey's comments.
Check out the 10 ring over on http://glocktalk.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=38
This forum should give you all the info you need on .357sig vs. 10mm
Excellent full power ammo is produced by Double Tap and you just can't beat the versatility of the 10mm with 135 gr. to 220 gr. loads, if you reload you can download to the 900 fps range for mild target practice or purchase factory loads such as American Eagle which has a new 180gr load running at about 1050 fps for a mild and inexpensive practice load.
The 10mm is the most versatile cartridge ever produced in a handgun. Check it out!
I own the .357 Sig and love it, but you cannot deny the frontal mass of the 10mm round compared to the .357 Sig. You cannot go wrong with either, but look at the difference in physical pistol size, weight and barrel length and apply that to what you want to do with it and you'll answer your own question. Good luck.
gary paugh
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I carry a glock 20C so does my son you just cant beat a 10MM. i load about 5000-6000rds a year of 10MMs
Gary
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Ohio_Hunter
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you say its to be your all purpose gun........
with that in mind have you considered a 357 Mag?
Unless you have to have an auto pistol, this chambering runs away from any 357 Sig or 10mm load.
and you can shoot 38 Spl plinker loads if you wish.
No limit to its versatility. kinetic energy levels from sub 200 all the way up to over 700 ft/lb.
And there is no way any locked breech pistol can ever withstand the pounding of full house magnum loads like a steel (carbon blued or stainless) framed revolver.
but if you already have a 357 (Elmer Keith's), get the 10mm!
Ohio_Hunter
with that in mind have you considered a 357 Mag?
Unless you have to have an auto pistol, this chambering runs away from any 357 Sig or 10mm load.
and you can shoot 38 Spl plinker loads if you wish.
No limit to its versatility. kinetic energy levels from sub 200 all the way up to over 700 ft/lb.
And there is no way any locked breech pistol can ever withstand the pounding of full house magnum loads like a steel (carbon blued or stainless) framed revolver.
but if you already have a 357 (Elmer Keith's), get the 10mm!
Ohio_Hunter
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dtech
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+1 for the 10mm. I have several of them, including an upper for my AR-15. I love the round, accurate, potent and fun to shoot. I took a nice white-tail with one of my handguns at 50 yards last season. It was a "bang-flop". The bullet went through but the deer dropped in it's tracks.
Hog-Sniper
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Dont forget that if you choose a 357 like a Sig you can get a second barrel in 40 cal for plinking and save the expensive 357 for carry...Thats what I do with my Sig 229......Just a thought...
muskrat30
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That sounds like a great gift from Santa, any gun would be. The closest I have is a H&K USP Compact 40 S&W that I like a lot. There is plenty of cheap or free brass around. I also agree a 4" or 6" 357 mag wheelgun covers many bases for an 'all around' handgun. It may seem a little common but it is so for a reason.
I went out yesterday and treated myself to a Stihl MS361 20" chainsaw to compliment my older 029. I enjoy it when the gas company comes to inspect my meter because I haven't been buying any gas. Merry Christmas to all.
I went out yesterday and treated myself to a Stihl MS361 20" chainsaw to compliment my older 029. I enjoy it when the gas company comes to inspect my meter because I haven't been buying any gas. Merry Christmas to all.