Right about loud! I've got an Olympic PCR-16 as well, shoots great but wear protection, I also have a Colt match Hbar lower with a 24"DPMS varmint upper, bull barrel. The varminter is heavy, heavy way too heavy to walk around with. Soon as I can I going to rebarrel that upper with a 20" SUM from OLY. By the way the Olympic shoots sub moa at 100 yds with cheap 55gr Federal or XM193. That heavy varminter demands expensive ammo, read 69gr SMK, to shoot sub moa. With the 55 gr cheap Federal (not XM193 - chamberthing) the heavy barrel shoots about 1.5moa. Rest of story, the little PCR-16 is a hot dog fine rifle with a pretty good stock trigger outfitted with a red dot inline and a Pentax 2-5X 20mm on top of handle all on an ARMS 39 mount. The Colt has a 4200 Elite Bushnell 4-16X 50 scope on a flattop. Whatever you do, get the flat top with a free float tube, I like the new Olympic K-16, light, free float tube, good barrel and $699 retail.