i had a CZ american in 17m2 with a weaver v16 and that thing was freaky accurate with a 10oz trigger you could shoot one hole 5 shot groups at 50 yards. i also found it had alot more penatration then the 17hmr on small amimals. I killed alot of stuff that shouldnt have been shot with the little gun but if you try you will be suprised of what it can do. i shot a squrial at 96 yards behind the shoulder with a clean pass through like it was shot with a 22 at close range but at closer ranges it will splater and make a mess like the HMR.