lyotehunter
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my 17.rem. shoots one hole groups also,i would not trade it for the others,and it kills great with little damage.
17 Rem/17-223/17-204??
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Originally Posted By: K22Originally Posted By: 6724223 brass is virtually free. 204 brass not so much.
difference between the 3 velocity wise is negligible.
17-204 will launch a 30gr. bullet at speeds the other two are trying to make with 25gr. bullets.
that might be a bit of an exageration.
difference between the 3 velocity wise is negligible.
17-204 will launch a 30gr. bullet at speeds the other two are trying to make with 25gr. bullets.
that might be a bit of an exageration.
Originally Posted By: 6724Originally Posted By: K22Originally Posted By: 6724223 brass is virtually free. 204 brass not so much.
difference between the 3 velocity wise is negligible.
17-204 will launch a 30gr. bullet at speeds the other two are trying to make with 25gr. bullets.
that might be a bit of an exageration.
Not really. .17-204 does over 4100 with 30's, easily. With long primer pocket life. That's keeping things super safe and sane.
I'd like to see a .17 Rem. or .17-223 do that with 25's. You hear the occasional report of that kind of velocity from them. But not as a regular thing, with long brass life. It's what's expected and normal from the .17-204. But with 30's.
It's in a whole different league than the other two. Frankly.
- DAA
difference between the 3 velocity wise is negligible.
17-204 will launch a 30gr. bullet at speeds the other two are trying to make with 25gr. bullets.
that might be a bit of an exageration.
Not really. .17-204 does over 4100 with 30's, easily. With long primer pocket life. That's keeping things super safe and sane.
I'd like to see a .17 Rem. or .17-223 do that with 25's. You hear the occasional report of that kind of velocity from them. But not as a regular thing, with long brass life. It's what's expected and normal from the .17-204. But with 30's.
It's in a whole different league than the other two. Frankly.
- DAA
steve garrett
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Originally Posted By: DAAAnyone care to guess how many shots in this one?
A guess is all that would be possible, it's more than you can count by the visible evidence.
That lone hole to the left, was the first shot from a cold clean bore. Landed out of the group, in this instance
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There is something else slightly unusual about that group, too. Which is, the whole group, was fired with the same, single piece of brass. Lapua Match .223 was brand new, had just barely become available. I'd been sent a sample for evaluation. I was loading a single piece over and over to see how long the primer pocket would last with my working load for the .17 Predator, launching 30 Gold's at just under 4,100 fps.
So... Eight shots. A seven and one group. Primer pocket was starting to get a bit loose - not terrible, but noticeably loosening. So I called it good rather than invite gas cutting the bolt face.
That first shot out of the group, isn't repeatable with that rifle. Usually doesn't happen. Most times, first shot from a cold clean bore lands right in the group with the rest of them. Not that time though!
- DAA
How many more firings does the imi give you? I see imi factory loaded ammo now days I wonder if the brass is the same still
A guess is all that would be possible, it's more than you can count by the visible evidence.
That lone hole to the left, was the first shot from a cold clean bore. Landed out of the group, in this instance
There is something else slightly unusual about that group, too. Which is, the whole group, was fired with the same, single piece of brass. Lapua Match .223 was brand new, had just barely become available. I'd been sent a sample for evaluation. I was loading a single piece over and over to see how long the primer pocket would last with my working load for the .17 Predator, launching 30 Gold's at just under 4,100 fps.
So... Eight shots. A seven and one group. Primer pocket was starting to get a bit loose - not terrible, but noticeably loosening. So I called it good rather than invite gas cutting the bolt face.
That first shot out of the group, isn't repeatable with that rifle. Usually doesn't happen. Most times, first shot from a cold clean bore lands right in the group with the rest of them. Not that time though!
- DAA
How many more firings does the imi give you? I see imi factory loaded ammo now days I wonder if the brass is the same still
William Suter
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So what twist and whose barrel would you use on a 17-223?