IAyoteHNTR
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Originally Posted By: Leadbelly They are cheap to chute though! Kinda like dating a high maintenance woman that drinks PBR.
That made me chuckle.
That made me chuckle.
$2000. air rifle
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Leadbelly
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Originally Posted By: pyscodogBeen looking at two PCP's, Airforce Condor and the Airforce Edge. The Edge is pretty much a target rifle. It has really low FPS and only about enough ft.lbs. to knock down the steel targets at 10 meters. Not for hunting at all.
I wouldn't get the edge, like you said not much there except shooting ten meter matches. One thing about the Air Force guns are the frames are known to flex, but there are plenty of mods to solve that. I would also check out this guy http://talontunes.com/. Makes really good custom rifles and has parts to customize stock guns.
I wouldn't get the edge, like you said not much there except shooting ten meter matches. One thing about the Air Force guns are the frames are known to flex, but there are plenty of mods to solve that. I would also check out this guy http://talontunes.com/. Makes really good custom rifles and has parts to customize stock guns.
Originally Posted By: spiderman .I got an Umarex Octane break barrel nitro piston rifle. Just over 2 hundred dollars , shoots hard and accurate . Scope included seems to be ok for now. I shoot it a lot at sparrows and starlings. Longest shot on starling....80 yards and sparrows 50 plus repeatedly. Jim
Offing starlings and sparrows is a public service. Miserable pests. Don
Offing starlings and sparrows is a public service. Miserable pests. Don
Sgtshultzy266
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PCP rifles are pricey, however Benjamin makes a reasonable rifle, one that's even a repeater that comes with a hand pump. It's a lot of gun for the money and perfect for pests and small game and won't break the bank. Another alternative is a good Springer, like a Beeman hw97k(beautiful gun) or any weilrauch/hw Springer. Springers are nice because they take one pull of a lever, no worries about tanks or accessories and are amazingly accurate on higher end guns. They take a bit of getting used to the shot cycle, but the benefit of that is you can get great experience and practice for trigger control. And like others have said, quality pellets are very inexpensive.
tripod3
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I've written this before as it is common knowledge amongst airgunners but may save time.
I have had some very nice springers up to a $1200 rifle. It was known as a scope killer even with the special mount.
Springers can kill a scope in as little as one shot as it happened to me. You need a quality airgun rated scope along with a good mount to endure the double recoil whiplash effect. A few mounting tricks don't hurt either. Using petroleum based lubes is not good either. It can cause dieseling up to damage to the gun.
Springers are hold sensitive from mild to difficult by model/caliber.
Pumps and pre-charged(PCP) are not hold sensative and are not especially hard on scopes. I prefer a 2-7 scope or something like a 4-16 AO as it is important to have a closer focus/parallax setting than the standard rifle hunting scope with parallax set at 100 yards.
Many airgun rated scopes are also rated for .22 rimfire.
As mentioned Good pellets are are important much like reloading gun powder ammunition, consistency from pellets and the same die lot # to repeat pellet seating depth matter.
The European airgun field target champion once sent me an article he wrote on consistency shooting to win.
Cost not being a factor, I consider a PCP package of gun, scope, mount, tank, fill regulator, and hand pump the way to go. Such a dream to shoot in the field or target. Hope you have a dive shop to fill the tank cause hand pumping is not simple.
Cost conscience though still leaves pumps and springers which are loads of fun. I have killed piles of pests with $25-$75 crosman and sheridan rifles.
I have had some very nice springers up to a $1200 rifle. It was known as a scope killer even with the special mount.
Springers can kill a scope in as little as one shot as it happened to me. You need a quality airgun rated scope along with a good mount to endure the double recoil whiplash effect. A few mounting tricks don't hurt either. Using petroleum based lubes is not good either. It can cause dieseling up to damage to the gun.
Springers are hold sensitive from mild to difficult by model/caliber.
Pumps and pre-charged(PCP) are not hold sensative and are not especially hard on scopes. I prefer a 2-7 scope or something like a 4-16 AO as it is important to have a closer focus/parallax setting than the standard rifle hunting scope with parallax set at 100 yards.
Many airgun rated scopes are also rated for .22 rimfire.
As mentioned Good pellets are are important much like reloading gun powder ammunition, consistency from pellets and the same die lot # to repeat pellet seating depth matter.
The European airgun field target champion once sent me an article he wrote on consistency shooting to win.
Cost not being a factor, I consider a PCP package of gun, scope, mount, tank, fill regulator, and hand pump the way to go. Such a dream to shoot in the field or target. Hope you have a dive shop to fill the tank cause hand pumping is not simple.
Cost conscience though still leaves pumps and springers which are loads of fun. I have killed piles of pests with $25-$75 crosman and sheridan rifles.
tripod3
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Originally Posted By: Bearare the nitrogen powered pellet guns hard on scopes like the springers?
Nitro gas rams can be great with maybe twice the life of a conventional metal springer. If not overcharged for more power gas rams can reduce noise and whiplash effect recoil, however they still need an airgun rated scope.
Hope that helps.
Nitro gas rams can be great with maybe twice the life of a conventional metal springer. If not overcharged for more power gas rams can reduce noise and whiplash effect recoil, however they still need an airgun rated scope.
Hope that helps.
sweatybetty
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Originally Posted By: LeadbellyPcp's are outrageously priced!! Plus filling equipment and optics and your into some serious cash. They are cheap to chute though! Kinda like dating a high maintenance woman that drinks PBR.
and what is wrong with PBR?
and what is wrong with PBR?
lyotehunter
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PBR PROFESSIONAL BULL RIDER I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WOULD DRINK THEM
Leadbelly
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Originally Posted By: sweatybettyOriginally Posted By: LeadbellyPcp's are outrageously priced!! Plus filling equipment and optics and your into some serious cash. They are cheap to chute though! Kinda like dating a high maintenance woman that drinks PBR.
and what is wrong with PBR?
Not a thang........ Drink it myself
and what is wrong with PBR?
Not a thang........ Drink it myself
Dixiedog1
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Originally Posted By: pyscodogI have heard using scopes with an etched reticle is best on an air gun. They don't shift.
True for a springer air rifle but if you go PCP it doesn't matter what you use for a scope, they don't have scope problems.
A springer recoils in each direction which is why they kill scopes, a typical scope doesn't necessarily have the reticle locked from both directions like a dedicated air rifle scope...a PCP has the normal recoil to the rera and doesn't have the same problem because of that.
True for a springer air rifle but if you go PCP it doesn't matter what you use for a scope, they don't have scope problems.
A springer recoils in each direction which is why they kill scopes, a typical scope doesn't necessarily have the reticle locked from both directions like a dedicated air rifle scope...a PCP has the normal recoil to the rera and doesn't have the same problem because of that.