22-250 reloading problems

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getfoxy

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I'm at my wits end guys. I cannot get bullets seated right. If I load boat tails they fall through, if I load flat base they won't seat or they fall through. I either chamfer too much or not enough. What is the deal. I have yet to have this problem with my 3006. Why can I not load for my 22-250? It's like I have problem working with smaller cases
 
getfoxy,
Is it a neck or Fl sizing die you are using.

You say some are falling through and some "wont seat". Does "fall through" mean the neck is too large and letting the projectile drop all the way into teh case or does it mean they wont stay put and fall over teh edge onto the bench?

Does "dont seat" mean they won't go into the neck and just crush the neck brass instead?
 
The chamfer won't make them fall through. Take the expander ball out and size a ctg. measure the inside dia or the outside dia. Then put the expander ball back and size another ctg. If the ball is the problem, just chuck it up in your drill and useing sandpaper or emery cloth, make it a couple of thousandth's smaller. Or perhaps the part of your die for neck sizing is messed up. At least eliminate the expander ball first.
 
I'm full length sizing. The case mouth is either too big a d keys the projectile fall through into the case. Or sometimes it's too small and the bullets fall out. Flat base and boat tail. Dosent matter which
 
Then you either don't have your die adjusted correctly, or the die does not resize the neck properly. Not that hard to figure out.
 
Is this a brand new die?? Only two things I know of can cause this,. Too large of an expander ball diam, or the case necks have been turned too much.. Or maybe the die isn't a 22 cal die.. Maybe marked wrong?? Try it with a new untouched case.. Just run one through the sizer and try seating a bullet.

Also measure the OD of a few bullets and make sure they are the proper diam.. Maybe you have 20 cal bullets??
 
Originally Posted By: Jack RobertsYou are not resizing the neck enough or maybe your expander is too big??

More details are needed.

Jack

This happened to me. I called RCBS for a replacement expander for .223. The package was labeled for a .223 expander but contained .243 expander. Check expander dimensions.

RCBS made it right w/o problemos!

EDIT - Just read zilla's input. Good point on checking bullets, maybe grabbed a few out of another box?
 
are you taking the brass up into the die far enough - camming over fully?

Do you feel resistance as you lower the brass out of the die after sizing? if there is no resistance, then the die is not sizing the neck properly - maybe not camming over or just a bad die??. If you do feel resistance, then the ball is likely too big and making the opening too large.
(When sizing, first the sizing part of the die makes the neck smaller, then the ball expands it out to hopefully the proper diameter)
 
getfoxy,
I know I'm saying what other already have, but...I'd

1. measure expander ball to make sure its the right size for calibre,
2, check I was lubing the case before sizing and that the case was going all the way into the FL sizer.
3, have a look at teh FL sizer and see what size/calibre it says it is.
4, inspect/measure the neck and see if it is being necked in by the sizer. You can see where the neck has been push in.

I know you might have already done this before with a 30-06, but stuff happemns. Don't feel lonely. Most guys screw up and just don't say much about their screw ups.

Hope it helps
 
Guys I figured out the problem I think. All of the brass that was bad was new brass. Every bit if it. I took a piece if the brass and a bullet to a guy at our sporting goods store who is an avid reloader and he said the brass was too soft. My tumbler just came in today and I had been drying the brass in the oven lol. I left the brass in there too long because I forgot about it. This guy thinks the brass got soft. I think that's what he said. I kinda forgot some of what he said. Does this make sense? It does to me
 
The neck will only expand to the dimensions of the bullet, not more than the dimensions of the bullet. Therefore when you stop applying pressure, the bullet will stay where you left it and not fall through.

I'm not buying the "brass too soft" explanation.

While unlikely, it's possible the die is defective and maybe a universal decapping die got thrown in the box instead of a FL sizing die... That's all I've got on this...

Good luck, I hope this gets worked out for you - sux being unable to load when you want to!
 
Originally Posted By: HereticI'm not buying the "brass too soft" explanation.

Neither am I.

I won't even touch the "I forgot it in the oven" part of this.
 
Originally Posted By: orkanOriginally Posted By: HereticI'm not buying the "brass too soft" explanation.

Neither am I.

I won't even touch the "I forgot it in the oven" part of this. .

Are you suggesting i made it up? If youre going to say something back it up. Otherwise don't say anything because you really are no help to me at all
 
Brass too soft is not likely, you don't happen to have grabbed a box of 204 bullet have you?? I did just that one time.Take the expander out and size the brass, then see how tight it is.. this should point you in the right direction.
 
I don't own a 204. All of bullets are .224 or .308. My die is functioning fine I just resized more and the bullets did not fall through. However the batch of brass that was pulled out of the oven several bullets fell through.
 


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