.22-250 vs .243 for Coyotes

Originally Posted By: jasonprox700

Anyway, he also asked about purchasing a dedicated bolt action coyote rifle.
What do you guys think?

this is all you needed to ask... a great "dedicated" coyote gun will be that of a .224 cal, especially with you throwing up the choice of a .223 in the AR Platform, or possibly building a dedicated bolt gun... In my experience I've witnessed more dogs die with the 22-250 caliber, than all my other rifle platforms put together, (and I've got a lot of em)... there is nothing wrong with dedicating a weapon to a specific purpose, and there is nothing "hard core" about not wanting to turn that pretty fur into a blood stained hatchet wound, I HATE with a passion, seein a furred up prime dog, strolling in to the call and then watching a 95grain + projectile going well over 3K ruin a perfectly good fur... yet another reason those who hunt with me use a fur friendly round, or they don't shoot... don't get me wrong, I've used plenty of larger cals on dogs such as the 308 and 260, but most of those are for designated long shots, well beyond a quarter mile... and while we are talking wind, it's not that hard calculate in your brain if you are an avid shooter, I just pounded a dog this morning @ 200yds with a 35mph wind using the ol 22-250, POI was only 3" left of POA, due to the gusts, didn't matter to the dog, he just died... and then again if your worried about wind, run a heavier round I've went all the way up to the 69smks with my AR's and my 250s of course you'll need an 8-10twst... I guess I figure it's easier to hold dead nut and give a little for wind, than use hold over with the smaller .224 cals. but when I get up to the heavier rounds in the 6.5 or 762 I'll hold over or dial up every time.
 
I know I'm going to catch he11 for this, but if you're having range/wind-drift issues with a .223rem, then a .22-250 isn't going to extend your range much. With similar bullet weights, you're talking 50-100yrds difference in performance, and the break point doesn't happen at 100yrds-200yrds.

For fur hunting, a .223rem or .22-250 are great, for anchoring coyotes, the .243 gets the nod. A .243 at range can be nice on hides, and it can ruin some good ones too.

I call with a .223rem AR at night, long range just doesn't happen at night, whether you're using moonlight, kill lights, or nightvision. Maybe FLIR would be different, but I haven't decided to drop $5k on a scope yet since night vision/thermal imaging isn't legal in KS.
 
Originally Posted By: alfI probably would have told him the same.

With Barnes bullets now days though, they are a game changer in 22 caliber, and six for that matter too.

If economics play any role, the 22 can be loaded for a bit cheaper overall, but really depends on the amount of shooting involved.

Just remember that most factory 22-250s and some of the bolt 223s do not have a fast enough twist rate to shoot Barnes Lead Free bullets that are over 50 gr.
 
What a faster twist rate, say 1-7,1-8,1-9, go with a 223 in a AR platform. My 1-8twist shoots 69gr. Nosler Custom Comp in some nice tight groups
 
Originally Posted By: BRIZ

243, 0 runners, 0 spinners EVERY one i hit dumped up like he was hit in the head with a acme safe falling from the sky! BIG holes when you hit a sholder bone or spine..or hip. not advocating it but there are no "marginal shots" on a yoty when you hit him with a 243. they go down, thats it.

Jered

I shot this coyote maybe about 10 years ago. I used a CZ550 in 243 with a Sierra 85gr HPBT bullet. When I shot him at about 75 yards he took off running, and went 50-75 yards when he finally fell over. At first thought, I actually thought I might have missed him. I guess he was just one tough SOB.
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Originally Posted By: FurhunterMan... You guys sure bring the heavy guns.

I'm gonna start callin you ".243 for coyote guys" the "Predator Masters Field Artillary Regiment"

PMFAR fer short! LOL
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Signing up for the PMFAR, .243 WSSM 55 grain here, puts em down with severe and brutal prejudice. No runners, spinners, or even much twitching. Very forgiving on shot placement.
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FYI
Might be a bit hard on pelts.
 
I would go with the .243 if there is a possibility of LARGER predators coming to the call!...Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it!...
 
I have all three as well. They all do a great job.

My .243 is shooting some great groups with 4007 and 60grn Sierra HP bullets...really good.
 
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