22 Magnum recommendations.

Chadley, You might also want to check the stupid regulations on the size of shot if using a shotgun. You can use TTT shot to waterfowl hunt but not for coyotes. Makes a lot of sense to me.. Shoot in the air with large shot but can only shoot on the ground with #4 or smaller shot.. Like the other guys I like a 40 gr bullet in the 22 mag. Have a Marlin now but if given the chance I will go back to the Ruger 77 .22mag. Hello from outside of Chattanooga..
 
Bought a 22” Ruger American the winter before last discontinued at cabelas for $199 in 22 wmr. I was recommended the rifle per my smith who was shooting sub MOA with his. I read an article on one shooting .366” with hornady vmax at a 100 yards . I tried the same ammo and shot a .331” with it and .668” with Winchester 30 grain ammo at a 100 yards. Very accurate rifle. Only thing I did was remove a coil or two from the trigger and polish it. The trigger brakes around a pound. I’d like the CZ512 next. From reviews I read all ammo feeds great in it. The magnum research would be my first pic so I could lighten the trigger but it sounds like 30 grain bullets are not recommended and void warranty for some goofy reason.
 
My keltec pmr30 was sent back to to keltec and refunded directly last year. It was a tack driver but jammed every 1 to three shots. To bad wanted to like it. Brand new, 2018 pistol. Taught me never to buy a plastic keltec again. Went back three times. They even send back some used beat magazines they they sprayed dry graphite lube on the inside and still didn’t work. (They figured the mags were swelling) I even polished the feed ramp after their three tried and a few other tricks along with trying six kinds of ammo. I have two buddies who flame me over it. They both are keltec lovers and own both PMR and CMR 30’s. Every time we go the to range after they tell me it was a fluke EVERY one of their rifles and pistols jam and fail to feed. Lol , JUNK

Very cheaply made.

But you will have your die hard lovers defend them till the day they die and keep keltec in business. They can buy them all.


My RAR had a few Winchester ammo fail to fire with primers strikes the first time out so I took the bolt apart and polished it and cleaned out the dirty black grease and found a chunk of something in it. lubed with synthetic lube and no issues since. I will get stuck casings after three quarters box of ammo through it and it gets fouled up. I polished the inside of the chamber and it seems it can go a lot longer between firings before casings stick.
 
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Originally Posted By: DultimatpredatorBought a 22” Ruger American the winter before last discontinued at cabelas for $199 in 22 wmr. I was recommended the rifle per my smith who was shooting sub MOA with his. I read an article on one shooting .366” with hornady vmax at a 100 yards . I tried the same ammo and shot a .331” with it and .668” with Winchester 30 grain ammo at a 100 yards. Very accurate rifle. Only thing I did was remove a coil or two from the trigger and polish it. The trigger brakes around a pound. I’d like the CZ512 next. From reviews I read all ammo feeds great in it. The magnum research would be my first pic so I could lighten the trigger but it sounds like 30 grain bullets are not recommended and void warranty for some goofy reason.

Here's the "goofy reason" explained as best I've seen it explained on the internet......... It mirrors a conversation I had maybe 2 years ago with a MR technician, and it has nothing to do with safety, etc.

http://www.predatormastersforums.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2263858

Sorry...... wrong link posted earlier.

 
Originally Posted By: LodgepoleGet a Marlin22 Mag with tubular mag .I am sick that I sold mine .Feeds without a hickup and drives nails .13 shots and no lost clip.I am getting another one !

Its funny you mentioned that model. I looked at one today that was priced at $279. I wonder what they'd actually take for it.
 
Originally Posted By: yotekiller47Chadley, You might also want to check the stupid regulations on the size of shot if using a shotgun. You can use TTT shot to waterfowl hunt but not for coyotes. Makes a lot of sense to me.. Shoot in the air with large shot but can only shoot on the ground with #4 or smaller shot.. Like the other guys I like a 40 gr bullet in the 22 mag. Have a Marlin now but if given the chance I will go back to the Ruger 77 .22mag. Hello from outside of Chattanooga..

Hi there neighbor!
Nobody really knows the reasoning behind the rule to begin with. I thought about carrying the 223 and just taking my chances, but I'll probably keep within the guidelines, however silly they may be.
 
I bought a used Marlin bolt with tube used years ago that shot great and even had a nice trigger job. Unfortunately it was a pain to unload and reload between spots back in the day, wouldn't be an issue now with carry permits. Wish I still had that one.
Also tried a Remington 597 22 mag. It shot great with Remington Accutips, but the mags wouldn't feed worth beans. Ended up with a CZ 452 Lux 22 mag that is very nice and a sweet shooter with the CCI 40gr HP or Fed 50grHP. Very fun round to shoot, make that first one count.
 
Originally Posted By: DultimatpredatorMy keltec pmr30 was sent back to to keltec and refunded directly last year. It was a tack driver but jammed every 1 to three shots. To bad wanted to like it. Brand new, 2018 pistol. Taught me never to buy a plastic keltec again. Went back three times. They even send back some used beat magazines they they sprayed dry graphite lube on the inside and still didn’t work. (They figured the mags were swelling) I even polished the feed ramp after their three tried and a few other tricks along with trying six kinds of ammo. I have two buddies who flame me over it. They both are keltec lovers and own both PMR and CMR 30’s. Every time we go the to range after they tell me it was a fluke EVERY one of their rifles and pistols jam and fail to feed. Lol , JUNK

Very cheaply made.

But you will have your die hard lovers defend them till the day they die and keep keltec in business. They can buy them all.


My RAR had a few Winchester ammo fail to fire with primers strikes the first time out so I took the bolt apart and polished it and cleaned out the dirty black grease and found a chunk of something in it. lubed with synthetic lube and no issues since. I will get stuck casings after three quarters box of ammo through it and it gets fouled up. I polished the inside of the chamber and it seems it can go a lot longer between firings before casings stick.

I watch a video last year about the Keltec problem. A guy dumps a box of ammo in a paper cup and added dry silicone powder. So I tried it after a 5 box breaking time. Worked on my pistol and carbine. I stay with 40-45 copper ammo.
 
I think the Marlin XT22M or the Ruger American 22 mag would be a good choice for your needs . I currently have a BRNO ZKM611 22 mag auto , a CZ 552 varmint 22mag and a Ruger American Predator. Back in the 90's I used a Marlin 25MN 22mag with good results. I hunt the local yotes with my 22 mags on the West side of the state all the time. You might also look at The Henry pump or lever action the narrow cross-section of the receiver would probably be very comfortable to carry in the woods.

Ammo is very important with a 22mag when hunting yellow dogs . My favorite round is the Federal 50 gr HP. It will stop a yote solidly out to about 75 yards which is about the max range I shoot them with the 22 mag. I have had good luck with the Winchester 40gr HP silver box as well.

I prefer a magazine fed gun for hunting yotes because if I am moving around between sets ( in a car ) it is quicker to reload. I also usually carry a 22 mag handgun as well . I have a Ruger Single -six and a Taurus 941. I have never really need it but I like having it.
 
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CZ 512 is a great and accurate rifle.This rifle breaks down easily for cleaning and like all CZ's I have owned they are very accurate and reliable.
 
marlin 25MN is a VERY accurate rifle, Savage counter part is also, change out springs for a better trigger.

Marlin Tube feed is a very accurate rifle, if you can find one.

None of these would stabilize the 50g Federal, however they may have changed the bullet design.

Winchester 40g jacketed Hp is a great coyote killer, many others, not so much.

If it is legal in your state to have loaded rounds in the tube feed, but not in the chamber, I would opt for the Marlin tube feed every time...nothing to loose.
 
To Ackleyman

The 50 gr Federal 22WMR's i am using are about 3 year's old and shoot very accurately. When did Federal make the bullet change.
 
Ramjet, I don't know if or when a change was made, Seems like I read it somewhere. The 50g that I shot was from 25 years ago.

An issue with the 50g is to know what the twist rate is with your rifle, as they may be very different from European to American guns.

Browning A bolt and Ruger 77 would not stabalize the 50g federals...
 
Always floor's me these question's about what rifle to get. Get what you like. Today's rifles are so good that the odds of you getting a bad shooting one are pretty darn slim! But get one you don't really care for because someone said it's a great rifle and you'll still probably never care for it! Get what you like! Now the question of 22 mag or 17 Still what appeals to you. I doubt you'll score more with one or the other based simply on the cartridge! Now something worth talking about that hasn't come up is sight's! If you have a 22 mag or 17 rimfire do you really need a 6-18X scope? Bear in mind you range is already limited by the cartridge and a coyote is actually a pretty big target! I have one 22 mag, mod 783 Marlin with an old El Paso K4 Weaver on it. Does all I ask of it which isn't much. Best 22 mag I ever had was an Anschutz back in the 1970's. Trade a phobia did me out of that one! Go look at all you can find and pick one "you" like!
 
Gees, Don. These "I don't know what to do next" threads are what keeps the old internet afloat.

I especially love 'em when the OP says, "I've narrowed my choice to A or B", and immediately posters offer up their reasons why he should buy C, D, or E instead. They make for great reading sometimes.
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Don ,
It's a "forum", a place to ask questions and share ideas. These kinds of questions allow somebody new to the sport to take advantage of the experience of a seasoned veteran like you. The wide variance of responses may cause a new guy to think about something he didn't know to ask. Allowing him the opportunity to make a better decision.
 
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Just a thought, but Mossberg Chucksters have always been known for their accuracy & the older ones are unserial numbered! Just something to think about...
 
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